On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:37:44 +0000 (UTC), 
John Edser  wrote:
>Larry Moran wrote

>> You did complicate things by introducing "Haldane's dilemma."
>> The discussion will now diverge into meaningless debate about a
>> non-existent phenomenon that is of no practical interest to modern
>> evolutionary biologists.
>> What is it with "Haldane's dilemma", anyways? I can understand why
>> anti-science idiots would want to use it a club to beat on evolution
>> but why would any real scientist pay attention?
> 
> Because the dilemma discloses other incorrect but hidden 
> assumptions of gene centric Neo Darwinism, e.g. the deletion
> within over simplified models of actual genetic epistasis via 
> its redefinition to mean "additive genetic epistasis". 
> Reducing the human genome to only allow additive information 
> as "heritable" forces the genome to become huge compared
> to the size that it actually is. Haldane's dilemma reflects
> this "unsatisfactory" situation. The relatively small size of 
> the human genome remains a total shock to gene centric Neo
> Darwinists because they cannot fit all their known heritable
> information into it. This is why you hardly ever find the
> discussion of the size of the human genome in sbe. People
> are very sensitive about what it proves re: their assumptions
> of what must be heritable within nature (not just within their
> models of nature). EITHER Nature refutes Neo Darwinism
> on this point or if you prefer Post Modern epistemology:
> Neo Darwinism refutes nature. Of course you can always do 
> what GH suggested: just forget about Popperian refutability
> within the sciences. If you add to this what Prof. Felsenstein
> suggested: remove all reference to cause and effect within
> the sciences then the transition is complete. All we sane
> taxpayers have to do now is lock them all up in one room
> with their toys and throw away the key....

Like I said, why would any real scientist pay attention to this
nonsense?




Larry Moran
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