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to: ROB SWINDELL
from: MICHEL SAMSON
date: 2004-10-21 19:09:00
subject: SBBS/W32 Kermit SABOTAGE

Hi Rob,

     About "SBBS/W32 Kermit SABOTAGE" of October 20:

RS> ...point out the exact items...  Otherwise, leave me alone.
MS} ...YOU are the one who made contact...  You insisted by trying to
MS> move the discussion in the `SynchroNet SysOps' area where your
MS> disciples were waiting to take over and obscure the `Kermit' topic
MS> using more personal attacks...  ...you only retain the few words
MS> which lead to more controversy...  LEAVE ME ALONE YOURSELF.
RS> No, it was *you* who posted *my name* in this echo.
                         ^^^^^^
     No CONTACT there.  My name is associated to your SABOTAGE since you
put it (read posted it) on your ~WEB~ site 14 months ago...  What a poor
attempt to distort reality, it's like this evangelist thing but you know
what?  Evangelists return every Sunday and i've been very quiet about my
promotion for a lot longer than a week!  Lets check the chain of events:

____________________________________[ `Linux BBS', September 27, 2004 ]_
 -> From Michel Samson to Andy Alt about "BBBS UpLoad":
http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/linux_bbs/dece560207ffc3a6.html
____________________________________[ `Linux BBS', September 28, 2004 ]_
 -> From Michel Samson to Maurice Kinal about "BBBS UpLoad":
http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/linux_bbs/4723804a66064a90.html
_________________________________________[ `Windows', October 3, 2004 ]_
 -> From Michel Samson to Gregg Somes about " SBBS/W32 Kermit Install":
http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/windows/6b87e2f6ba3744f8.html
_______________________________________[ `Fido Util', October 5, 2004 ]_
 -> From Michel Samson to Win-32 SysOps about "SBBS/W32 Kermit Setup":
http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/fido_util/ea3e65b5f4965796.html
______________________________________[ `Fido Util', October 11, 2004 ]_
 -> From ROB SWINDELL to MICHEL SAMSON about "SBBS/W32 Kermit Setup":
http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/fido_util/ae182661df4c2ec6.html
______________________________________[ `Fido Util', October 12, 2004 ]_
 -> From MICHEL SAMSON to ROB SWINDELL about "SBBS/W32 Kermit SABOTAGE":
http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/fido_util/a45a83c398a620bd.html

     You can't read a text correctly and you can't get the numbers right
neither.  YOU made contact 1st and YOU posted my name 1st as well, there
is no mistake possible:  anyone but you can measure a 1 day interval, in
one case, and many many more in the other.  I can't but notice it didn't
take much evangelism to get you and your holy army mobilized, anyway!...

     Should i evaluate the proportion of On-Topic content that came from
your clan i'd be justified to say it was MEANT TO SILENCE THE PROMOTING.

MS> ...A long time ago, the author of `SynchroNet' made me post a
MS> `Kermit' configuration-file only to reject it...  As a result, it's
MS> the 2nd time this year i hear of some BBS where the SysOp failed to
MS> obtain suitable `Kermit' support...  ...Wayne Warthen's `Kermit for
MS> Windows'...  ...abort pronto and users have their session hanged...
RS> I didn't "make" you do anything.  If you have a suggested change to
RS> the default kermit.ini included with Synchronet (and *not* a
RS> completely new, totally different .ini file), then I'm all ears.

     The challenge was a significant precursor of the whole intervention
and expressed one simple thought:  let me continue to SABOTAGE `Kermit',
the fact that `Windows' BBSers got no suitable FreeWare client is "moot"
and a few hanged sessions will make both the SysOps & BBSers react badly
enough to get rid of `Kermit' once and for all, as you might have wrote!

                                  %-b,

RS> I don't move messages or discussions between areas.

     I didn't suggest that we move to `Fido Util' before my reply to the
post you sent me on October 13, thinking i was reading from `Linux BBS'!

RS> Perhaps you have multiple personality disorder?

     Mind about your own.  What disorder is it to claim `HyperTerminal's
`Kermit' is "just fine" when its packets are 94 bytes *MAXIMUM* and .ZIP
transfers crawl (19+ retries/second) at a whoping 500 cps rate?!  I know
better:  a clean 12+ Kcps, under DOS!  What sort of SysOp disorder is it
to pretend you can build a better .INI in a matter of hours when mine is
attempting to implement Error Trapping (not even a `Kermit' thing) after
years of correspondance?!  Where were you when i got my first test, boy?

     What treatment does a SysOp require when he doesn't care his BBSers
can't return for a day because a session hanged and the time vanished in
in thin air?!!  If you can't tolerate that i got to criticize your lousy
`Kermit' setup just fix it up!...  Don't bother to associate me with it.

MS> ...you will agree to remove all mentions relative to me...
RS> Sure, no problem.
MS> It appears you got much more than just a Drop-In Replacement issue:
MS> `Kermit.TXT v1.5'  "...Samson, the self-appointed Kermit expert
MS> and evangelist".  The person who could request action regarding
MS> Winston Smith is Winston Smith himself so i have to wonder:  did he
MS> ask not to be associated with this SABOTAGE as well?!
RS> The sentence you quoted has nothing to do with Winston Smith.
MS> Check what you'll find simply by feeding Google...  "kermit.txt
MS> synchro.net".  BEFORE  ...  AFTER  ...you couldn't care less about
MS> what you had cut...  ...it was too tempting to remove it all...

     Try http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/MSK.INI and begin to paste!

                                                           Salutations,

                                                           Michel Samson
                                                           a/s Bicephale


... Rob's SBBS/Kermit:  short-sighted moves and blind cutting gone wild!
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