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from: Anon.
date: 2004-03-08 15:25:00
subject: Re: Hamilton`s Rule: a fr

John Edser wrote:
>>BOH:-
>>Where, in the inequality rb>c are OFM and OFA distinguished?
> 
> 
>>JE:-
>>They are supposed to be distinguised by the 
>>sign  of c which we agree cannot be distinguished
>>because the sign of c remains _arbitrary_. 
> 
> 
> BOH:-
> No!  You distinguish it by measuring it.  It's simple empirical science. 
>   It even fits within a Popperian framework.
> 
> JE:-
> "You distinguish it by measuring it"?
> Measuring exactly  **WHAT** ?
> 
c, or to be more precise the difference in fitness (or fitness 
component) betweeen individuals that carry out the behaviour, and those 
that do not.

> 
> 
>>I include this missing term thus:
>>
>>		rb>K-c
>>
>>Where
>>
>>K has the value of cmax.
> 
> 
> BOH:-
> This isn't Hamilton's rule...
> 
> JE:-
> That is correct.
> It is a _corrected_ version of it
> where the rule becomes NON ARBITRARY.
> Now the sign of c becomes definitive for 
> OFM, _only_. 
> 
> 
>>BOH:-
>>Now it is perfectly clear that
>>only OFM is operating within
>>Hamilton's rule. 
> 
> 
> BOH:-
> ... so this statement is misleading.
> 
> JE:-
> "misleading"?
> 
Yes.  As you agree that it is not Hamilton's rule, you shouldn't make 
statements which assume that it is.



Bob

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