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From: "Vern Humphrey" 
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To: seanmbrook{at}aol.com [mailto:seanmbrook{at}aol.com]
> >
> > VH> This is no more a conquest than the liberation of France
> was a conquest.
> > >
>  That clarifies matters.  A conquest would be if the
>  US/UK claimed joint sovereignty over Iraq and set
>  up their own gov't.

That's correct -- this is an act of altruism, not of self-enrichment.
>
> >
> > VH> That's a possible scenario, although I think an Iraqi
> government will be
> > formed sooner, and declared independent, but with long term US and UK
> > support.
>
>  Certainly.  It's more likely the stages I listed above won't
>  be that clearly distinguished from one another.  I.e.,
>  overlappings.

Quite reasonable.
>
>  And some of Iraq's neighbors, like Turkey and Iran,
>  may still be tempted to take some bites out of her!
>  Which means the US/UK will have to undertake
>  the military protection of Iraq until she's back on
>  her feet.

Yes -- although mere presence is probably enough to prevent any aggression.
>
>  Too likely!  We can at least day dream of Pres.
>  Chirac and Chancellor Schroeder at least being
>  exposed as crooked deal makers.

That would be nice, but I suspect their personal trails are well covered.
> >
> > VH> Oh, yes!  Recall that of all the organizations that took
> part in the
> > Easter
> > Uprising (Transport Workers Union Citizen Army, Cumman na mBann, Fianna,
> > IRB, etc.), Sinn Fein was NOT one of them.  Yet the British
> ascribed it all
> > to Sinn Fein, and set to work to root out all the
"Shinners" in Ireland!
> >
>  NOT smart.  It's far more sensible to distinguish the
>  innocent from the guilty.

But that shows why Ireland had to be independent -- you can't be ruled by
people who make that sort of broad-brush judgement, and proceed to act on
it.
>
>  Of course suppressing the Easter Revolt was a
>  military matter.  But POLITICAL considerations
>  should have guided how the military were used.
>  Clausewitz would probably not have approved of
>  this kind of heavy handed bungling.

It should NOT have been a military matter -- they could have been talked
out of the GPO, albeit with considerable political concessions.

As it was, those same political concessions were made about five years
later -- after a lot of blood had been spilled.


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