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to: BOB STOUT
from: CHARLES ANGELICH
date: 2003-12-08 17:11:00
subject: Re: [C] website

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Hello Bob - 

BS> My comment was made as an aside, not a moderation message. 

Bill was probably having a bad day. ;-) 

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BS> Given the low traffic volume, any attempts at moderation
BS> will be *extremely* light-handed and restricted to really
BS> serious abuses. If people are talking, there remains a
BS> chance they'll talk about C programming. 

Don't you wish, at times, that we could roll back the hands of
time and start from a point closer to the begining when C was
'new'? Even when I just lurked and had never written any C code
I found the conversations and opinions regarding 'good' and
'bad' coding practices to be useful and worth discussing. Even
when no one could agree it was insightful. :-) 

I still have code for the original 'ShadeBob' graphics display
that I preserved as it was being written here in the C echo. I
found, just recently, that 'shadebob' has become a part of the
terminology for those who write demos and other graphics
software. :-) 

The thing that caught my eye re:ShadeBob was that a great deal
of what developed here in the echo began as a general
discussion then bits and pieces of code being presented,
modified, and so on until a working useful piece of software
could be compiled. Only the ASM echo would see such online
development over a period of time to a finished piece of
software. 

Some years back, I purchased "The White Book" (K&R) and began
typing in the code in the book. I noticed I had the bits
required to redo Microsoft's DOS 'sort.exe' program which
seemed worth doing since MS version was so very limited and
SLOW. I used the example of the Quick Sort from K&R and found
my version, once compiled, was 100 times faster than the MS
version. :-) 

To be honest, I never noticed there was a qsort() function in
the Borland ANSI C compiler that I had installed. Years later
when expanding memory use to the first 1meg of DOS memory I
began to wonder if there weren't better sort algorithms out
there and mentioned my curiousity here in the C echo. Over the
following months many persons here contributed examples of
their favorite sort algorithms with test code included to
compare and experiment with each one. It was very much like
'the old days' for awhile and I learned a great deal from it.
:-) 

If we could get back to that level of involvement and interest
it would be a good learning experience for people new to
programming and a more positive atmosphere for FIDO. :-) 

BS> Perhaps I should've appended a smiley face... 

People tell me that all the time (that I should add smileys). 

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