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to: CHARLES MURRAY
from: SONDRA BALL
date: 1997-01-25 00:48:00
subject: what are we? part 2

CM>     I believe in total free enterprise (capitalsim) nationalized only
OK, if you really believe in total free enterprise, you would want me to
get rid of my food co-op.  Is this true?
  >     bay the fact we use American money and live in America.If you don't
  >     like the way I run my business start your own and put me out of
  >     business that way , but don't pass a law so you can have your way
  >     and starve the people who would other wise have a job untill you
  >     close my plant with your regulations telling me who I can and can't
Frankly, I think there are often too many government regulations, and
that, often, those regulations address the wrong issues.
  >     hire to work for me . I was turned down once for a really good job,
  >     because I was the wrong color who defended me ? Not the NAACP because
  >     I was the wrong color this is why I say they are racist .
I don't know the whole story behind this, so I can't respond to it.  I
know that sometimes people are turned down for a job because they are
the wrong color (and that happens to people in *every* race), and I
believe that is wrong.  That may very well have happened to you.  I also
know that employers often lie to potential white employees and tell them
they had to hire a minority person instead of them, when, in reality,
they hired another white person, and didn't want the rejected person to
"feel bad."  I don't know about Tennessee, but that's *very* common in
the Mid Atlantic States.
CM>     no two people can ever be equal not even under the law
  >     as I have proven . I am not equal to you, I have given my reasons
  >     so I will not ask you to lower your standerds what ever they may be
  >     do fit mine . An employer should have the same rights as any employee
  >     but they do not (double standards) .
I believe you and I probably have different strengths and weaknesses.
There are probably things I do better than you.  There are probably
things you do better than me.  So we are not equal in every area.  In
some things you are superior, and in some things I am superior.  But I
*still* believe that you and I are of equal worth.
CM>     Share the wealth ie level playing feild , to take away from the
  >     haves (by force) and give to the have not's. This is a flase
  >     ideaoligy you can not make a silk purse out of a sows ear just
  >     by taking and giving . respect is earned , you can't legislate
  >     respect,morals (honesty and trust) or equlity . but you can
  >     create a well fair state where people live free off the working
  >     class who only want better for there self and family .
An African-American leader, and his name is escaping me right now, said,
"Blacks in America survived slavery; they survived apartheid; they
survived the hate groups.  I'm not sure they can survive welfare."
CM>     This is it in a nut shell , judge me however and interpret as
  >     you wish , because you are free and I have no power to force
  >     you nor would I ever want that power in this life or the next.
Charles, what I really want is for the two of us to start understanding
each other.  We may, and probably do, disagree about some things.
That's OK.  But I suspect we disagree about fewer things than you think
we do.  For example, you were sure I would think you and your son were
rotten people over the schooling issue.  And I actually agreed with you.
You use words that I have learned to associate with white racists.  You
are apparently not a white racist.  I apparently use words you associate
with some group *you* don't like, some group *you* think of as evil
people.  Maybe, just as you are not really a white racist, I am not
really a part of whatever group you are asssigning me to.   Maybe you
and I really are just not using words in the same ways, and so we aren't
understanding each other.
CM>  Sure I'm a bigot, I believe in God Christ Jesus as the one and only
  >  savior . Bigot: by God or by Gods will! In this reguard I am a bigot
  >  and proud to be ! But I'm sure you idea of a bigot is something I am
  >  not .
Although I think your message about being a Christian is sincere, I
think, overall, that you are being sarcastic here. If you are not being
sarcastic; if you are saying something in all seriousness, let me know,
and I will respond to it accordingly.
                         Sondra
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