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to: KURT WISMER
from: KUNO WOUDT
date: 1997-04-07 19:00:00
subject: Re: Thanks Man

Kurt?
Kurt Wismer ging uit fietsen en zag Re: Thanks Man.
 Hij dacht, "Dat moet ik Kuno Woudt vertellen."
 KW> ridiculous... you're still missing the point... if they were completely
 KW> satisfied then they wouldn't need to show off... they wouldn't feel the
 KW> need to elevate their egos...
 KW> as it is, they are NOT fully satisfied by defeating an os, or an av
 KW> product - nor do they need to release a virus to prove that they've done
 KW> so... they only need to release a routine (or set thereof)...
exactly.  here are some relevant parts of an interview with some
trident guys:
[Crom Cruach]
 Which of them have you written yourself?
- I haven't released that many; Little Mess, Horns of Jericho, Weirdo
  and Cheeba were the only ones I believe- I rarely release my
  creations...
  I mostly write programs showing a specific hole in the system
  protection, I rarely build an entire virus around it...
 Would you feel guilty if one of your viruses made damage to a hospital?
- Yes; does this really need an explaination? I always try to make my
  viruses as compatible as possible, and surely don't make destructive
  ones. Sheesh, it is *way* more difficult to make something really non-
  destructive...
[Masud Khafir]
 Would you feel guilty if one of your viruses made damage to a
 hospital?
- Yes, I would. For that reason I don't write viruses that destroy data.
  I usualy don't spread them in the wild at all. I only did that once,
  when I was in a bad mood. I don't wanna cause other people trouble.
  For me creating them is the most important thing. But of course I
  also like it if they get some worldwide attention. That's human
  nature, I guess. That's why I don't mind if AV people get them.
  But I don't see a problem in giving them to VX people either,
  because my experience is that viruses in the VX scene very rarely
  leak out in the wild.
[Dark Helmet]
 Would you feel guilty if one of your viruses made damage to a hospital?
- I don't thinks so, because I don't feel responsible if someone else
  start releasing viruses in the wild. As a matter of fact I think that
  the most viruswriters don't spread there creation around in the wild.
 KW>> I have some source code on my hard disk which unintentionally
 KW>> mutilated some multisync monitors, so I could easily create one :)
 KW> send it to rod, he's waiting anxiously to see such (believe to be)
 KW> imaginary code...
well, when a program was released last year (iirc) containing that
code, only a few (maybe 10 or something) people complained about it
damaging their hardware while hundreds must have seen it. So, rod will
have some trouble finding a monitor on which it actually 'works'.
Which is also the reason why a virus containing such code wouldn't be
a threat, which in turn is the reason why such a virus will never be
created in the first place.
Warp.
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