John Edser wrote:
>>>BOH:-
>>>Where, in the inequality rb>c are OFM and OFA distinguished?
>>
> 
>>>JE:-
>>>They are supposed to be distinguised by the 
>>>sign  of c which we agree cannot be distinguished
>>>because the sign of c remains _arbitrary_. 
>>
>  
> 
>>BOH:-
>>No!  You distinguish it by measuring it.  It's simple empirical science. 
>>  It even fits within a Popperian framework.
> 
> 
>>JE:-
>>"You distinguish it by measuring it"?
>>Measuring exactly  **WHAT** ?
> 
>  
> BOH:-
> c, or to be more precise the difference in fitness (or fitness 
> component) betweeen individuals that carry out the behaviour, and those 
> that do not.
> 
> JE:-
> You have agreed that:
> 
> 1) The sign of c is arbitrary within Hamilton's rule.
> 

> 
> How can you measure c when the sign of c is arbitrary?

Because c exists outside of Hamilton's rule.  You wouls still be able to 
measure it even if Hamilton's rule did not exist.



> I repeat: the only thing that is "misleading" 
> here is your proven lack of integrity. You have 
> proven yourself totally unwilling to examine just
> one simple inference from what you agreed because 
> it does not suit you to do so. Is this the sort of 
> biased nonsense you pass off as science to your 
> hapless students?
> 
John, please avoid these gratuitous personal insults.

Bob

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