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to: JORJ STRUMOLO
from: DAVID CALAFRANCESCO
date: 1997-10-20 02:28:00
subject: starting slowly

Jorj Strumolo wrote in a message to David Calafrancesco:
DC> InJoy is great as a dialer replacement for the dial other
  > providers portion of the bonus pack. [...] Install the
  > bonus pack IAK and then get InJoy and use it to dial.
 JS>  A real answer.  I'll take a few days and try it out.
DC> Note that you are using a very old version of
  > OS2 and many changes to the base code have
  > been released in the intervening years.
 JS>  I also only spent 15 bucks on it.  I consider it rather
 JS> like  shareware.  If I like what I see, and it works well,
 JS> I'll pay  more for a later, greater version. 
 JS> Parenthetically, some of the  core OS/2 files I have date
 JS> from Jan'95.  I use plenty of
 JS>  programs that are considerably older than that.  One of the
 JS>  utilities I load in my autoexec is from 1985.  Another,
 JS> from  1986, is one I've never seen the like of, and I use it
 JS> scores of  times every day.
The updates are free for the taking via the web. I believe I also heard that 
J3 computers had pressed a CD with several fixpacks for both Warp3 and Warp4 
and was distributing it for about $10. I also believe IBM will sell a CD of 
any fixpack for a price. Given that it is free, given that hundreds of 
problems have been fixed, why wait. Get the update, listen to the voice of 
experience. There are parts of OS2 that haven't needed to be changed in 
years, there are others that have been tinkered to death. Most of the changes 
in the latest fixpacks are really good and make the system more stable. 
DC> Configuring IP under WinOS2 is significantly
  > more difficult than using native packages.
 JS>  It can't be much worse than Win95, which came with this
 JS> computer  I bought when my old one died, and which is
 JS> endlessly annoying.  I'll probably end up wiping the
 JS> partition I exiled it to.
Actually, yes it can. I had Win95 up and dialing in a few minutes. I have 
heard of nothing but problems for people who don't know OS2 that well getting 
IP in the WinOs2. If you truly insist in taking that path, ask lots of 
detailed questions first. But most important, get the OS2 side functional 
first. Also, do not under any circumstances load a Win31 IP stack. You will 
just frustrate yourself. 
DC> Use Netscape/2 for your mail and news and you will probably
  > be good to go and start experimenting with WinOS2 apps.
 JS>  Mail and news go together, but why they stick them with
 JS>  browsing, I don't know.  I tried that mode with Netscape
 JS> and  MSIE in Windows, and found it wasn't me.  Build a fast,
 JS> small  browser, I say, and leave mail/newsgroups to a
 JS> separate fast,  small, dedicated program.
True, however the way Netscape2 is working, the news and mail portions are 
just about seperate programs that just happen to be invoked from the browser. 
There are at least a dozen news and a dozen mail readers available for OS2 in 
native mode. Any of them will be easier to setup than IP inside WinOS2. 
Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2
dave@drakkar.mhv.net
... They got the library at Alexandria, they're not getting mine! 
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