JP>Get 1911 if you want a good pistol.  
Yeah, 1911's are great, if you have $800 to start for a vanilla 
Springfield, then you go on to add $900 of modifications for stocks, 
ambi-safties, brushings, caspian slides, etc.  As a matter of fact: All 
the 1911 "toters" I know of, only two carry theirs stock.  Only two.  
Those are fine. One is a Norinco, the other is a Para.  If the 1911 is 
so great, why do they need all the extra crap?  My Smith 686, un-
modified, out of the box, hits steel plates at 80yds. I'd LOVE to see a 
stock 1911 reliably do that.  If I ever buy 1911, I've given certain 
people permission to shoot me with it (so when I wake up in the morning, 
I'll never do it again :) )
Oh, I see.  New York Logic.                             
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