John Edser wrote:
> John Edser wrote:
> 
>>>TH:-
>>>But can we go further and say 
>>>'what isn't genetic drift (in the most broad sense of the word)
>>
>>
>>BOH:-
>>Well, we could use a diffusion model, in which drift wouldn't be drift.
>>Sorry, I couldn't resist.  To translate, selection would be the 
>>difference between the expected allele frequencies at two times points.
>>
>>JE:-
>>Typically BOH replaces testable reality
>>with just his "expectations" of it.
>>In simple terms such an absurd event 
>>is termed: propaganda. The master was Stalin.
>>He turned reality into his "expectations" and
>>millions perished.
> 
> 
> BOH:-
> John, please read up on simple probability theory before you write 
> another post ridiculing expectations.  They have a precise mathematical 
> definition, which you seem to be totally unaware of.
> 
> As for testability, you might like to read up about a wonderful subject 
> called "statistics".  It's used to fit models to data, which is an 
> esential component of testing hypotheses.  One of the things you can do 
> is to estimate expected values (e.g. of allele frequency changes).
> 
> JE:-
> Once again BOH asks us to replace a testable 
> reality with just his expectations of it. 



This is just a sematic game.  The expectation is of a random variable, 
not of reality.  There's no point in continuing this if you don't even 
understand the basics.

Go away, read and learn about simple probability theory, and about 
statistical method, and then return to this.

Bob

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