Salutatio Mark!
12-Feb-98, Mark Bloss wrote to Richard Meic
          Subject: "Existence Exists"
 RM>> No number is finite.  2 can be 2.00000001 or 1.999999 or 2.1 or
 RM>> 2.0001. Infinity seems to be imbedded within the very existence of the
 RM>> universe. To assume that the universe is finite, in light of so many
 RM>> infinities, is not very logical.  I realize this is not exactly what
 RM>> you were  talking about, but what the hey... just getting the jump on
 RM>> our other  thread. 
 MB>  It seems logical that
 MB>  1) an infinity can be proved to exist mathematically, and
 MB>  2) we exist in this universe, and
 MB>  3) infinity exists in this universe, and
 MB>  4) for infinity to be produced at all it must be a product of an
 MB> infinity,
 MB>     therefore
 MB>  5) the universe must be infinite.
Right.
 MB>  Another way of putting it:
 MB>  The Universe is restricted in its scope by only those things which it
 MB>  contains.  Therefore, for anything that exists in the Universe: it 
st:
 MB>  be a product of this Universe and be an attribute of this Universe.
Makes sense to me.
 MB>  Therefore, the Universe is infinite because an infinity exists within
 MB> its
 MB>  scope.
 
And THAT, my dear friend, is what I have been saying long ago when I 
first brought up the thread the first time more then a year ago.  That 
the BB model is illogical.  If the universe is finite then there should 
*:NO:* infinities at all within the universe; no mathematical infinities, 
no quantum mechanical infinities, no infinitely divisible properties
of matter, and no infinitely circular religious arguments ;) (MAN, I'd 
love to live in a universe like that ).
 Dicere...
 email address (vrmeic@spots.ab.ca)
Richard Meic
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