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to: John Beckett
from: Gene McAloon
date: 2004-05-09 15:34:22
subject: Re: Proud of your troops, Mark?

From: Gene McAloon 

On Sun, 09 May 2004 09:44:14 GMT, John Beckett
 wrote:

>> Even sado-masochism has a purpose. Torture always has a purpose.
>
>And the purpose of taking the photos was ...?
>
>I think Bill makes a terrific point. Whereas some official may want
>prisoners  tortured for a purpose, the perpetrators are acting out of

The motive for taking the photos probably varied with the photo taker.  It could
have been anything from wanting to document rotten behavior to wanting to
send photos home to demonstrate how they were getting their revenge on the
low-life perpetrators of 9/11.

Bill has a point, but it is a point wrong-headed in the extreme. It can
even be interpreted as feeling rather sorry for the torturers on the basis
that if he were there under those circumstances, he might have done the
same. If I had been
in Himmler's position, would I have done the same as he?  No way in hell
would that have happened. Some people will do those things and some will
not and that is true regardless of circumstances.

Bill is just being his usual smarmy self. Recall this is the man who urged us to
send letters to service people in Iraq, whether we knew them personally or
not, to let them know they had the support of people on the home front. Ann
Landers stuff. Good lord!

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