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from: `Derek W. Keoughan`
date: 2006-03-07 18:49:22
subject: Re: [OS2HW] Get a quiet-n-cool computer: [Fwd: [TI-99/4A] Strip Out

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:41:00 -0500, inkleput{at}isp.com wrote:

>"Derek W. Keoughan"  said:
>
>>>Hi all,
>>>OK, what's next in quiet-n-cool computing? Anyone wanna try this?
>
>>Let me know how you make out... I'd be too tempted to overclock the
>>whole rig and make french fries... :-D
>
>>-Derek
>
>I'm curious.  Percentage wise, about how much increase can you get out
>of the "average" push?  I ask because I'm a bit skeptical whether it's
>worth the effort.

Well, it's been a number of years since I actually bothered to
overclock anything - because of

1) the risk of cooking something (other than french fries!),

2) the time involved in checking it out,

3) the minimal performance gains,

4) the lockups and "weird stuff" and lost time you wind up with if
you've pushed it too far,

5) the clock multipliers being locked-down on my CPUs of choice -
anything by AMD in the last several years, and probably most
importantly...

6) the "I'm not in college anymore, and can afford more speed and if
the faster chip doesn't work I can blame someone else and make them fix
it" factor. :)

That said, I have a Celeron 500 that's been quite happily running OS/2
Warp 4 and later eCS since about mid-1999, at an overclocked 562MHz,
24/7/365...  I've blown a pair of SCSI drives in that box, and it's now
running on an older 40GB IDE... but it's quite happy collecting dust,
being rebooted every six months when I shut down and rearrange
everything.  It's on a UPS, and ran for well over 90 minutes last week
while the house hydro panel was being swapped out before the APC
PowerChute for OS/2 shut it down...

For the rest of them, well, there's an AMD dual-core Athlon64 4800+, a
dual-socket dual-core Opteron 270 (4 CPUs) with liquid cooling that
everyone saw at Warpstock 2005, a Pentium-III 600 (test rig for hard
drives), an Athlon 1333, an AMD Sempron 2400+ (my wife's), and this box
- an Athlon64 3500+...   but they're all running at rated speeds with
no overclocking.


Sites like www.tomshardware.com have featured numerous articles on
this... but a quick search of "overclock" yields only results on
graphics cards... and the majority of articles on CPUs are dated 2000,
2001, 2002, or 2003...   my educated guess is, the technology is not
easily overclocked anymore, or the returns on invested time just aren't
worth writing home about.

Here's one with some comparisons with recent CPU's that's worth a read:

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1758


Mind you - the price of the parts required to "make it happen" and the
expertise... well... probably easier to buy the next highest CPU
available, and just run it. :-D


-Derek

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