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to: GEORGE JIRI OPLETAL
from: FRED AUSTIN
date: 1998-03-03 00:02:00
subject: Skeptics are sometimes wrong

 -=> Quoting George Jiri Opletal to Fred Austin <=-
 FA> professional skeptics.....
 GJO> There is none Fred.  All people suffer from ignorance to some degree.
 GJO> A measure of this, if you like the 'skeptical' trait is not by
 GJO> belonging to some organsiation but having the intelligence to address
 GJO> all topic rationally.  Some people will claim that no evidence at all
 GJO> exist to support a U.F.O/et hypothesis, yet you soon learn they have
 GJO> not looked.  That is a set mind frames no better than the worsts of
 GJO> the U.F.O buffs.  People will except the testimony of one character
 GJO> over another without any explanation of their motive for doing so,
 GJO> thinking that a fellow debunker MUST be correct.  -!- FMail 1.22
    Hi George,
         Set mind frames are of course  prevalent in  society in  many 
areas.  There  is no  doubt of  that.  I  do hope  that our  skeptical 
friends here of course have done  some homework  in this  area, before 
just tossing off well, "we don't think so".  I have  agreed with  them 
on some areas, and on some  areas I  don't.  I  often welcome  insight 
into some cases, if they can provide opposing data, that is fine  with 
me. The keyword is of course provide, not argue.  So  far I  have seen 
some provision on the part of Mr. Bloomberg as in  text provided  of a 
skeptical  nature  by skeptical  organizations. Fair  enough.  On  the 
other  hand  I  also  see just  a lot  of nit  picking and  posturing.  
Science doesn't even come into play,  yet the  word science  is thrown 
around here like it is God.  Maybe to some it  is.  Science  though is 
not an  end,  it is  a means,  no more  no less.
    As for credibility factor, people are who they  are.  What  upsets 
the skeptical world is they see this as a runaway train, with everyone 
hopping on board.  I  find that  amusing.  They  think everyone  is so 
gullible except themselves.  I think they should step back, and take a 
long  look  at their  motivation.  What  is it  they seek  here.  Most 
likely they do not like that answer.....
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