Racing series           F1
Date    2004-04-22

Present:

Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
Takuma Sato (BAR)

Q: Michael, since Bahrain can you tell us a bit about your testing programme?

Michael Schumacher: We have obviously been in Barcelona testing, I was
there two days, and after that in Fiorano for two days. The funny thing is
that it is rare, and I don't remember when we had the last test and we
didn't have any rain period. It has been a rainy season during testing at
least.

Q: And I think you were there yesterday with Valentino Rossi...

MS: Yeah I was there yesterday and it was pretty interesting.

Q: Tell us about it. How did he get on?

MS: He got on very good. He took some time to get into it but in the end he
ended it very impressively.

Q: Obviously being a racer on two wheels he has the general feeling for it...

MS: I guess so. I didn't know that but I heard yesterday that he has some
karting experience which I guess did help him. But once you have the racing
blood you sort of know what to do.

Q: This race is a home race for you with Fiorano close by, but I believe
you also have some responsibilities with San Marino. Can you tell us about
those?

MS: Indeed, it is a sort of home Grand Prix for me. As the ambassador of
San Marino, I am going to be at the sports awards tonight. It is good to
come here. Obviously we all know about the rumours for the future of the
San Marino Grand Prix, so from my side I hope that they don't come true.

Q: Can you do anything about that?

MS: If I have anything to do I will try, but I think there is very little I can do.

Q: The other thing since Bahrain is that you went to Dublin and did some
work with the FIA on road safety. Can you tell us about that?

MS: Yeah we have been doing a few events together, the FIA and myself, in
order to campaign road safety. We have the 10-second campaign and it is
always about how little attention and little time you need to improve your
road safety. There is little things like putting on the safety belt, having
luggage in the right position, having the children's seat properly -- they
are little things but they have a big effect. People who have not seen the
difference do not do it and they risk their lives. So we try to raise the
attention because if you know the numbers of road accidents, if you see the
ambitions in what there is to achieve in the next years, how much to reduce
death in traffic that is pretty ambitious, especially with all the new
countries coming to the European statutes -- it is important to work with
them and make them aware.

Q: Is that something you will be doing more of?

MS: We are doing it quite regularly honestly. Whenever there is the right
time because if you do it every day it is going to go in there (one ear)
and out of there (the other ear). You have to do it at the right time and
in the right way.

Q: So quite a busy few weeks since Bahrain?

MS: I mean Dublin was in that respect busy because I had just come home and
had to leave straight away again to go to Dublin so it was pretty busy.
Then with the testing and so on the next week was okay. I just had two days
and I was a bit easy until yesterday.

Q: Last night...

MS: Even last night but I don't know if we should speak about that.

Q: That was a busy match wasn't it?

MS: I was running around with my colleagues. We had a sort of positioning
for our players and after sort of two minutes I saw the game and I said to
all the good players like Fernando (Alonso) and some others 'you have to
come to the back, you can't be the attackers'. There was no game in the
front for us in the beginning, we only had to defend against these
professional people. But it was fun and it was particular fun in the
second-half when we changed the players.

Q: What about this weather, are you expecting this weather throughout the weekend?

MS: It would be beautiful especially for the spectators. Even if the
temperature went higher it would be ideal for everybody. I heard some
forecasts, which doesn't seem to be for the rest of the weekend this kind
of weather.

Q: Would prefer cooler temperatures? Do you think that Bridgestone need
cooler temperatures or is that a bit of a myth these days?

MS: There is maybe the open point of the very, very hot conditions, which
we could have had in Malaysia and could have had in Bahrain -- what is the
situation. I believe the sort of low to normal temperature is pretty equal
for us so these temperatures are good.

Q: How do you think things have gone so far this season?

Takuma Sato: Obviously we are very happy about the things that have
happened and obviously the racing wasn't easy for me the first three races
but the car has worked very good and strongly. All three drivers, test
driver Anthony (Davidson), Jenson (Button) and I are very confident about
the car and putting so much commitment into the team. We are working well.
For me to come back to the Grand Prix for a second season is very good and
exciting.

Q: Did you think it was going to be this good?

TS: The beginning of the season was nervous, but the car had a lot of
potential. I had a really exciting race in Bahrain so it is nice after
this.

Q: There was an accusation after the first two races that you were
over-driving. Do you feel that you have got that sorted out now?

TS: It is a difficult question. Obviously a driver is always driving as
fast as he can and you are always committed. The difficult things are that
we have a small number of laps before the qualifying and there is a lot of
things that we have to do. It is never going to be perfect. But I think now
we are back in Europe it is more relaxed with the structure and the way
things happen at the weekends, and more, I think, enjoyable now.

Q: What about the battle with Jarno Trulli in Bahrain?

TS: Jarno was a little bit at the start, but basically I started with Ralf
and the last 15 laps to the finish was with Alonso.

Q: And how enjoyable was that?

TS: It was good. We were fighting for the points. I think Bahrain has a
really great opportunity for overtaking people and those last 15 laps were
tough, but it was a good battle.

Q: And the testing since then -- Jenson did 150 laps in one day at Ricard,
I presume that is pretty good...

TS: As Michael mentioned we all went to the Barcelona test and it was a
good test. Then we went to Paul Ricard and Jenson completed nearly 300 laps
in two days. Unfortunately the day I arrived was stormy weather and we
couldn't complete any timed laps. Basically we just did out laps to collect
data. But we are on the pace in testing and we are confident for Europe and
particularly here.

Q: After these first three races have you slightly reappraised your
ambitions for the season? Have you thought I can do a little better than I
thought I was going to do?

TS: I think that probably the biggest grey area was how the BAR-Honda would
be performing. But we did a lot of hard work over the winter and I'm
particularly pleased we have shown some good performance. We have scored a
lot of points and I think we will rightly continue with the package
throughout the season.

Q: To come back to Michael, one of things that has come up since the last
race is the certain amount of talk over weather Formula One cars should be
slowed down. Do you think they should?

MS: It is probably a matter of whether we arrive at a limit where we can
cope with it or still can cope with it and from a drivers' point of view it
is clear that we can still cope with the speeds we do. I think for the
future if you see development going there has to be a direction and there
is something in plan to do. If you see the relationship between the
horsepower and what the tyres do and the aerodynamics are, then we have, in
my view, to look at that and reduce the horsepower.

Q: Michael would you like to jump on a bike now in return....

MS: I do pretty regular jump on a bike. It is more a Harley Davidson bike
but anyway. There is no ambitions to jump on a real race bike and try to go
really racing speed. That is not my ambition. Going from a bike to a car is
a pretty safe thing to do, going from a car to a bike lesser.

Q: Could you just give us your general step on this weekend and the
competition and how you think it will go....

MS: There is two views you can have. One is that we have been here in the
winter and were very strong, the other is that in Barcelona Takuma and
Jenson have been very fast. So what does it mean? I don't know myself
actually.

Q: Michael in Bahrain you drove a fantastic race and obviously got
tremendous satisfaction out of winning in such dominant fashion. It is not
your fault that the other don't have a package good enough to compete
direct with you but do you miss wheel-to-wheel racing with the competition?

MS: You know racing and Formula One in particular has always been like
this, that there is no way to get 100 percent wheel-to-wheel racing. There
is periods you have more and there is periods you have less. The other
periods will come.

Q: Michael I can imagine this must be an emotional weekend for you in more
ways than one, not only the death of Ayrton Senna ten-year anniversary but
this time last year you lost your mother. Can you put into words your
thoughts...

MS: You're pretty right. Unfortunately we only think about one driver and I
like to remember both drivers who have died in the same weekend. Roland
Ratzenberger and Ayrton died and everyone was obviously shocked about this
and from my point of view it was the first experience with death in the
sport I most love. The only positive I can take out of this one, and at
least that is important that we have seen a lot of action in terms of
safety happening since that day. Max Mosley was very much the person to
drive this safety campaign very strongly forward to not let this happen as
much as it is possible in the world to have a safe sport. Because to
everything there is a limit but he and his group and the drivers and
everybody sort of pulled on the same line in order to improve safety and if
you see what safety level we have in these days, then it is a tremendous
success. In this way we have to say that this is the feedback we have had
since 1994. It doesn't really justify it, but at the end of the day we can
see something positive out of it.

Q: What do you remember most about Ayrton?

MS: I have very mixed and many memories. The first one is in 1980 when I
saw him racing in a go-kart race, and I was very impressed. Nobody knew who
he was at the time, it was purely a fantastic kart racer with a lot of
abilities and talent and he worked his way through to Formula One and
became as successful as he did. It was a privilege for me to be able to
race against him. We had some tough fights, very good fights, we had some
tough times on a personal level, but we also had some good times on a
personal level, which I am always keeping in good memory.

Q: Many people try to compare the two of you. Do you think that is an
unfair comparison?

MS: I never wanted to be compared or try to be someone different so
naturally I don't draw the comparison.

Q: Going back to Valentino Rossi. Do you think he could have a future in Formula One?

MS: I think it is not easy to answer. He has great ability, he has shown
that many times on his racing bike and he has shown them to some degree in
what he did yesterday. As he knows what it takes to do what he is doing in
motor racing, in motorcycle, how much experience he needs, how much basic
knowledge and experience you need in the lower classes you need to build up
to this top level. I would probably say he would come to a certain level,
which would be maybe competitive, but to come to the final bit is usually
the difficult bit. I don't think it is the point because he just wanted to
en joy himself and I'm pretty sure he did looking at the grin he had on his
face yesterday. I guess today he is working on his neck to get that back in
order! Otherwise it was a fun day for him.

Q: Michael, going back to the question about slowing the cars down, you
mentioned engine power but the biggest gains come from the tyre war and the
reduction in lap times. Is there an argument for controlled tyres?

MS: I think the only way is to tell them what to do, but as we have a free
sort of sport it is very difficult. To put more grooves then we'll be back
on slicks basically. Not much you do about that in my view. If you see the
improvement over the years, when we went from three-and-a-half litre to the
three-litre we were down to 600 horsepower and everybody said the maximum
you will arrive at is 700, 750 that's going to be it. Give it another two
years we will be knocking on the 1000 door in my view and this is out of
proportion with the size of the tyres we have, to the grip, to the aero
package and that why I think that is the thing to look at.

Q: Coming back to Valentino Rossi, are you curious to ride his motorcycle
as he was to drive a Formula One car?

MS: I am curious to feel simply the acceleration of such a bike, not find
the limit on the corners. I said before that is not my playing field.

Q: Jarno, at the beginning of the season, Ferrari said that they feared
Renault more than any other team. Do you think that fear has been
fulfilled; do you think your performance has been shown so far?

Jarno Trulli: Let's say that Ferrari was definitely right in terms that we
are second in the championship so we've proved that obviously we've got a
good package, we've done very well in the first three races. But it's also
very clear that Ferrari is a very strong team, it's got a very strong car
with two strong drivers, so they are leading the championship with quite a
big gap. But we are second in the Constructors' championship and this is
the most important thing for us. We know that we have a lot of work to do
ahead of us, to keep this position to the end of the championship. We've
got 15 races to go, still a long way, still a lot to do, especially because
teams like Williams, like McLaren, like BAR, they can all do very well.
Actually BAR and Williams are strong and I'm sure McLaren will recover from
these disappointing first three races.

Q: You've obviously got improvements to the car here and to the engine as
well. Can you tell us a little bit about that? What are your expectations?

JT: Actually we've got some updates here, because we know that this is the
first race in Europe and Imola has always been our 'black' spot. We've
never really performed very well here. We know that our car doesn't really
suit this circuit but on the other hand, more than ever we are confident
because we have a new engine development, which is quite a big step and
some new bits on the aerodynamic side, so we are definitely confident that
we can turn this black weekend around.

Q: So will you challenge Ferrari?

JT: Well, they've updated some things as well so it's not going to be easy
to catch them. Anyway, every weekend we all try to stop their domination.
Actually, at the moment, no one has succeeded but we will try, we will try.

Q: What about your relationship with teammate Fernando Alonso, do you get
on well with him?

JT: As usual, yes. I am very happy with the way we're working in the team,
and with our relationship. No problem at all.

Q: There have been quite a few changes at Renault, with Rob White now in
charge of engine development, new technical director in Bob Bell -- has
that made a difference?

JT: To be honest, no. Chassis-wise, Bob Bell was already there before. He's
a very experienced and an extremely good person. He knows his job. He does
his job very well and we're actually doing very well, so in the end,
nothing has changed. Mike has gone -- it's always a loss but it hasn't
really affected our performance. On the other hand, I think we gained
someone like Rob White, who is an experienced engineer, he knows a lot
about good engines, and he can somehow bring some new and fresh air to the
Renault team, which has already made the best engine in Formula One, and is
back now with an extremely powerful and particularly reliable engine. So
far, with Ferrari, I think we are the only team which has finished the
first three races with both cars. It's an extremely good achievement,
always in the points. They are doing very well on the engine side. The
engine we have this year is much better compared to last year's so it's a
good advantage.

Q: Tell us about running in the half marathon in Florence last weekend?

JT: It was great for me because it was a way to relax, a way to get away
from Formula One, to get away from people and be one of the many and not be
a star as you are here always. It's a good feeling. I like running and
personally I achieved an extremely good result because my aim was to run
the half marathon in under 1hr 40m by the end of the season and at my
second attempt, I went for 1hr 35m, so I think I now have to fix a new
target, under 1hr 30m.

Q: Were you very stiff, what were the after effects?

JT: Absolutely not. I was really surprised because during the three weeks
before, I didn't have enough time to train. I actually trained only twice,
but it was probably one of those days when you can do anything with your
body and just go for it. I felt so happy. I was motivated to do it, despite
the fact that the weather was bad, it was raining, so it was harder, but
no, nothing at all. I played football yesterday as well. It's just a
question of training, to get it right.

Q: How many more marathons have you got planned?

JT: I'm talking about half marathons, not marathons. Marathon is slightly
different. But now I've fixed a new target, to be under 1hr 30m, and now
I'm too busy with Formula One, and that's the most important thing.

Q: Felipe, you're not tempted to do something like this, are you?

Felipe Massa: Yeah, but I never did a half marathon. Maybe a marathon, but
actually I run also. I try to run every day, every three days when I'm not
testing. But I will do it some time, but not at the moment.

Q: Having tested for Ferrari last year, how do you feel coming back to
Sauber again? How much do you feel you've changed?

FM: There are a lot less people in the team. I already knew everybody that
at Sauber, they are very professional people and I'm really happy to be
back, especially as a race driver. I think the new Sauber car is a lot
better than last year's Sauber. I did a back-to-back which was very good.
I'm really happy. For sure we knew that the first three races would be very
difficult and they were very difficult for us, but at least we scored a
point in Malaysia and I think now we can improve. I trust in everybody in
the team and I think now with the wind tunnel, we can improve.

Q: What did you learn, yourself, as a test driver last year with Ferrari?

FM: I particularly learned on the technical side. I learned quite a lot.
Now I understand a lot more in terms of what it means to be a Formula One
driver, especially on the technical side of things. I also learned a lot,
how to work with the engineers, watching Rubens and Michael working the
engineers, so I learned a lot there as well. That's it. I think that year
by year, experience is very important and I think after a year race driving
with Sauber, and a year test driving with Ferrari, I've learned quite a
lot.

Q: Some people have referred to this year's Sauber as being a blue Ferrari...

FM: No, that's not true. Everybody knows that we have a Ferrari engine,
Ferrari gearbox... I think it's a shame to build a completely different car
from Ferrari, so I think we have built our own car. It's our chassis, we
built it, and we work on that. But it's not true. It's our car, we built it
and that's it.

Q: How was the football match yesterday? How was it meeting the fabulous
Brazilian team?

FM: It was very interesting because in the first half of the match, I think
it was better just to stop and watch the Brazilian guys playing, because it
was amazing, they are really good and they were just joking with us. It was
unbelievable to see how they play. And some of them don't play any more,
but they are still very fit and very strong. It's unbelievable, very nice.
Then in the second half, we mixed it up a bit, everybody together, and then
it was much better.

JT: It was a bit embarrassing at one stage, to be honest. The only thing I
understood is the way everyone has got his own job and everyone specialises
in his own job. I'm fit, I think I'm fit and I'm an athlete. Probably I can
drive a car at 360 kilometers per hour with no problem but they can play
with the ball, they can do things that I will never be able to do. I can
train every day, but I can never achieve what they are able to achieve,
because they have talent. We have got a different talent and as Felipe
says, it was amazing at one stage to stop, stand and watch them playing,
because it was just absolutely amazing.

FM: It was also funny because when I was young, a child, I was sometimes
thinking I could maybe be a football player, you know? And now I have the
answer. It is really impossible. To watch them play... it's really
impossible to be a football player. It's better to drive a car and
concentrate on Formula One, because it's nice to play and have fun, but
after we saw how they played
-- it's impossible.

Q: Did they make you run a lot?

JT: Yeah. They didn't run much, but we did, a lot! They were just passing
to each other, and we were just following the ball. It was impossible to
catch them. I think they are able to hide the ball from you, and if they
want, you will never touch it.

Q: For both of you guys, can you give us some of your memories of Ayrton
Senna, not of the sad day when he crashed here, but other memories of that
fantastic driver.

JT: Well, personally, when I was a go-kart driver, I was a big fan of Alain
Prost and when Senna arrived, I had to stand up and say 'this is someone
very special, special like Alain Prost.' It was amazing to watch them
fighting. My best memory was when I actually met Ayrton because back in
1991, I was World Champion and he was World Champion in Formula One. I was
World Champion in karting and we were both given our awards by the FIA at
their prize-giving in Paris. It was an incredible moment for me, because I
was meeting someone very special, but somehow also very nice, a very simple
person. An ordinary person. That is my best memory of him. The rest
everybody knows.

FM: First of all, he was an incredible driver. I think he was part of the
history of Formula One, and sport in general. As a Brazilian, I have to say
that he opened a lot of doors for Brazilian people, for Brazilian drivers.
I think the Brazilian drivers have a lot of respect in Formula One, after
Ayrton and he was an incredible driver. I remember the race in Donington
when he overtook a lot of cars at the start in the rain. I think he
overtook everybody on the first lap in four corners. It was an amazing
race. There are a lot of memories, but I think this race was really
impressive for me.


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