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echo: philos
to: DAVID MARTORANA
from: DAY BROWN
date: 1998-02-20 22:47:00
subject: `Inner Fatherland`

 DM>      If your bout with Jung goes back to "63", you must be practicing 
 DM>      some secretive mysticism yourself by now.... ??? 
Well, soon enough. Time to plant the holy barley next thursday, 
the night of the new moon. 
 
 DM>      It came to mind in revisiting J, how close and opposite 
 DM>   he was to Chardin ....almost as sun/moon brothers (yang/yin), 
 DM>   The one, Carl, reaching down into hell and back into pagan 
 DM>   histories to teach God an Aryan thing or two; the other, Chardin, 
 DM>   of equal reach, but forward and up to share our scientific futures 
 DM>   with heaven. Both men of (bent) genius, one of darkness and one of 
 DM>   light, we might enjoy such tensions of possible thought. 
Why darkness? I see the different viewpoint all right, but do not 
know that it is darker except that it is so unexplored. 
 DM>   Even with his feud with Freud [Vienna verses Zurich] (he opting for 
 DM>   a COLLECTIVE Aryan unconscious and Freud opting for the PERSONAL 
 DM>   _scientific_ subconscious + some unsimple SemitismS), we might also 
 DM>   smile into their exploratory confusions. 
There may be a difference between the Aryan and the Semite that's 
worth thinking about that relates to this personal/impersonal view 
of existence.  Zeus, for instance, is like a town mayor, limited a 
bit by his constituency in Olympia, and so aloof he does not care 
all that much what all mankind does, much less you personally.  A 
Semite however, sees himself in direct relation to God, a voter, 
if you will- who God cares about.  Of course, the Aryan is then in 
a free state to do as he sees fit, having no heavenly orders to do 
otherwise... as in 'God's will'. 
 
The Semite is an egocentric vision, whereas the Aryan is more of a 
realist, an existentialist, and an adult, responsible to himself. 
Of course, he would not ask for Zeus' help when in a jam, and the 
credit or blame is all his own.  
 
 DM>   FORGOTTEN MEMORY: "cryptomnesia" 
 DM>   There is a great deal made of "forgotten memory" and that such 
 DM> memory 
 DM>   is mixed with "present memory" and "historical memory [genetic?]" 
Damn good question.  The Semites seem to have been a small race 
in a place that was constantly overrun, whereas the Aryans were 
a populous race from a large area that did a lot of overrunning. 
I can see where the former learned to accept the will of outside 
forces, whereas the latter learned to cope with the exercise of 
the will, and accept the responsibility for action- 'The buck 
stops here'. 
 
Given the evidence of the Spartan eugenics experiment started by 
Lycurgus, only seven generations will produce profound effects, 
and with the above, we have hundreds. 
 
 DM>   I might note that the picture of J on the back cover is one of 
 DM>   the 10 best photo portraits (this side of Hollywood) I've seen. 
 DM>   I photo copied it for my own art studies and would send you a print 
 DM>   if you like.  It portrays THE magnificent mindFULL arrogance of 
 DM>   our dark Aryan angel from Mainz, at the very heightened instant 
 DM>   of superior "chutzpah" . 
Love to see it, but hold on a while; planning to change my email 
address, and don't want anything to get lost. 
 
 DM>    NOTE: ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (S)-- ESSAY on "Spirit Seeing" (1851) 
 DM>    : PASSING NOTE of possible interest you've probably already read- 
 DM>    (Was not available or even mentioned in my library)- 
Havnt read him since the sixties either.  heard a guy on PBS radio 
talking about a book in which he reports on the pretty wide group 
of studies which show statistical significance in some psychic 
phenomena, challenging the a priori skepticism of scientists who 
have not actually looked at all the data. 
 
 DM>    ...his personal experiences 
 DM>    derived from and into the Greek mysteries. In 1913, during such 
 DM>    trancing, he was initiated into a most ancient of mystery cults... 
 DM>    "the Mithric Deification" "Deus Leontocephalus". 
I think this is Persian, not Greek. The Greek mystery religion was 
pretty much destroyed by Justinian and the Byzantines, whereas the 
Persian remained outside the Byzantine empire long enough to leave 
traces in Afganistan, India, and Turkestan.  Nevertheless, I would 
love to see what he had to say. 
 
 DM>    Though warm to the acquisition of 
 DM>    "knowing", self deification is still a bit strong for me. Jung 
 DM>    wrote so much that it would seem a lifetime effort to read... 
Self deification as a Semite God is a long stretch to reach the 
awful awesome autocrat; but to reach the God who is propmaster of 
the universe is duck soup.  Like any craftsman, he will be glad 
of the company, happy to show you around the shop, and pleased if 
you wish to take up the trade. 
  
DM>       Also! I know you have read extensively and that much of what I 
DM>       present may be "ol stuff" .....if so my feelings won't be hurt! 
Hopefully, i am not the only one to read it, and it may well not 
be new to them! even so, am always glad to be reminded, for what 
I have read is, unfortuneately, much more than what I remember. 
___ 
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