John Edser wrote:
>>>>>>JE:-
>>>>>>Typically BOH replaces testable reality
>>>>>>with just his "expectations" of it.
>>>>>>In simple terms such an absurd event
>>>>>>is termed: propaganda. The master was Stalin.
>>>>>>He turned reality into his "expectations" and
>>>>>>millions perished.
> 
> 
>>>>>BOH:-
>>>>>John, please read up on simple probability theory
before you write
>>>>>another post ridiculing expectations.  They have a
precise mathematical
>>>>>definition, which you seem to be totally unaware of.
>>>>>As for testability, you might like to read up about a
wonderful subject
>>>>>called "statistics".  It's used to fit models
to data, which is an
>>>>>esential component of testing hypotheses.  One of the
things you can do
>>>>>is to estimate expected values (e.g. of allele
frequency changes).
> 
> 
>>>>>JE:-
>>>>>Once again BOH asks us to replace a testable
>>>>>reality with just his expectations of it.
> 
> 
>>>>
> 
> 
>>>>BOH:-
>>>>This is just a sematic game.
> 
> 
>>>>JE:-
>>>>No, it is your "game" of misrepresentation.
> 
> 
>>>BOH:-
>>>No, your statement confuses two uses of the word
"expectation".  I was
>>>using the word in a technical sense, which I then tried to explain.
>>>Your senetence seemed to use the non-technical sense of the word, which
>>>is a different matter.  Your sentence implies that in replacing the real
>>>world with something else, I am not making any allowance for the fact
>>>that the real world may be different.  This is not the case, and the
>>>implication in your sentence comes purely from the different uses of a
>>>word.  In that sense it is purely a matter of playing with semantics.
> 
> 
>>JE:-
>>If you are not just "replacing the real
>>world with something else" using the
>>"technical sense" of the
>>word "expectation", then what is
>>the "real world" representation of
>>fitness that you are estimating?
> 
> 
> BOH:-
> My phrasing wasn't so clear - I am "replacing the real world with
> something else", but that I can still make allowances for it being
> different.
> 
> JE:-
> Please note that you failed to answer
> the question that was asked.
> 
I did, by pointing out that the question didn't make sense in the 
context of what I was trying to write.

Bob

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