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from: Anon.
date: 2004-03-31 02:35:00
subject: Re: Dawkins on Kimura

John Edser wrote:

>>>>>BOH:-
>>>>>This is just a sematic game.
>>>>
> 
>>>>>JE:-
>>>>>No, it is your "game" of misrepresentation.
>>>>
> 
>>>>BOH:-
>>>>No, your statement confuses two uses of the word
"expectation".  I was
>>>>using the word in a technical sense, which I then tried to explain.
>>>>Your senetence seemed to use the non-technical sense of the
word, which
>>>>is a different matter.  Your sentence implies that in
replacing the real
>>>>world with something else, I am not making any allowance for the fact
>>>>that the real world may be different.  This is not the case, and the
>>>>implication in your sentence comes purely from the
different uses of a
>>>>word.  In that sense it is purely a matter of playing with semantics.
>>>
> 
>>>JE:-
>>>If you are not just "replacing the real
>>>world with something else" using the
>>>"technical sense" of the
>>>word "expectation", then what is
>>>the "real world" representation of
>>>fitness that you are estimating?
>>
> 
>>BOH:-
>>My phrasing wasn't so clear - I am "replacing the real world with
>>something else", but that I can still make allowances for it being
>>different.
> 
> 
>>JE:-
>>Please note that you failed to answer
>>the question that was asked.
> 
> 
> BOH:-
> I did, by pointing out that the question didn't make sense in the
> context of what I was trying to write.
> 

> 
> Amazingly, you have admitted to "replacing the real world with
> something else" but feel no need to explain to sbe readers
> what this replaced "real world" was, exactly!

Err, pehaps the "real world" was the real world?

Bob

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