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From: "Vern Humphrey" 
Reply-To: r_catholic-l{at}yahoogroups.com

To: Michael D Brazier [mailto:mdbrazier{at}juno.com]
> >
> > But let's consider this.  Israel has four choices:
> >
> > 1.  Ethnically cleanse the West Bank and Gaza Strip, driving out
> > the Christian and Muslim Arabs.
> >
> > 2.  Annex the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and keep Christian and
> > Muslim Arabs in a state of limbo, with no citizenship or rights.
> >
> > 3.  Annex the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and grant citizenship to
> > the Christian and Muslim Arabs.
> >
> > 4.  Agree to a Palestinian state.
> >
> > Which should she choose?
> >
> > Choices 1 and 2 would forever preclude Israel from claiming to be a
> > democracy.
>
> No, it would not.  Israel could follow either of those policies without
> altering its form of government at all.  Remember Great Britian's rule
> over Ireland; in the 19th century Britian was increasingly democratic.

Ethnic cleansing is NOT the act of a democracy.

And 19th Century Ireland was not a democracy.  The actual
"plantation" occurred in the 17th century and earlier, primarily
under Cromwell and William of Orange, when England was definitely NOT a
democracy

Michael, you are doing what you have said you are not doing -- that is
defending Israel's failed policy.  At every turn you offer arguments like
"Well, so and so did it" (whether that actually be true or not). 
If you are a partisan, and argue from the standpoint of a committed
partisan, there is no point in discussing the issue.


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