From: "Rich Gauszka"
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The disease is degenerative. You forgot to mention the film of Rush =
making fun of and imitating Fox shaking ( now Rush claims the video is =
shown at a higher speed to embarrass him but as MSNBC pointed out his =
words aren't sped up in the video - interesting ) while he said=20
"exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and =
shaking and it's purely an act"
Rush was talking about the political ad and not the testimony before =
congress. Fox said this =20
http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-michaeljfox1028,0,7994384.story?c=
oll=3Dny-entertainment-headlines
On the contrary, he had been overmedicated, the actor said during an =
interview aired on Thursday's "CBS Evening News with Katie
Couric."
"The irony of it is that I was too medicated," Fox told Couric, adding =
that his jumpy condition as he spoke to her reflected "a dearth of =
medication -- not by design. I just take it, and it kicks in when it =
kicks in."
"That's funny -- the notion that you could calculate it for
effect," he = said. "Would that we could."
"Mark" wrote in message =
news:4546e82c{at}w3.nls.net...
I actually heard Rush's original broadcast. To say that what he said =
has been mischaracterized, is to make a great understatement; but in =
seeing what the rest of the media chooses to air, it's understandable =
that any casual observer would think Rush is an ogre too
Paraphrasing Rush (and I find it amusing that I actually heard the =
broadcast, as I don't listen to him very often) and not necessarily in =
proper chronological order, he said, "Wow, I've seen Fox in Boston
Legal = and I like him and that show, but he seems perfectly normal in the
= episodes I've seen, so he must be either acting or off his medications =
in that commercial."=20
Then it turns out in Fox's own book, he relates that he went off his =
meds to testify in front of congress so they'd get an accurate picture = of
the devastating disease. So, I'm just not getting what Rush said that = was
so offensive
"Rich Gauszka" wrote in message =
news:4546e605$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Actually Rush Limbaugh is the one that went over the top with his =
statement that Fox was acting with his disease.. I was just lampooning =
Rush. Limbaugh has every right to criticize the message but it really =
was low to make fun of Fox's predicament. And like the weasel ( I should =
apologize for offending weasels ) Rush is he avoided and debate with Fox =
when he was invited this weekend
"Mark" wrote in message =
news:4546e343$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Bob, Rich was the one that went over the top on this one: "Rush =
Limbaugh will now proclaim British Scientists evil and in league with =
Michael J Fox in their diabolical attempt to embarrass the Bushies over =
stem cell research."=20
If scientists want to do embryonic stem cell research no one is =
stopping them, they're just going to have to find someone besides us to =
pay for it. Maybe Branson would be better advised to fund it instead of =
getting involved in the global warming nonsense to the tune of $3B?=20
Actually, that's a bad example, as I believe Branson is wisely =
funding alternative fuels with his donation, rather than throwing money =
into the sky, like the alarmists want our governments to do, maybe Soros =
will fund it? Or Gates? Or Buffet?=20
How about too, that expected 1,900 pounds a year increased tax =
proposal for every UK family to fund the politicians global warming =
playground? =20
"Robert G Lewis" wrote in message =
news:4546e0f1{at}w3.nls.net...
Except the articles quoted so far do seem to make the =
distinction. There does seem to be major differences in the usefulness = of
the different types of stem cells with the Embryonic being the most =
versatile.
"Mark" wrote in message =
news:4546decf$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Aha Bob, you found me out, I was distorting the record, =
thus falsely making Bush look good.=20
Hmm, kind of like when adult stem cell or cord blood research =
successes are splashed around indiscriminately to confuse people and try =
to make Bush falsely look like an ogre.
"Robert G Lewis" wrote
in message =
news:4546dd06{at}w3.nls.net...
Be sort of hard for many presidents before Bush to approve =
stem cell research. First stem cells were only isolated in late 98
=
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/18/AR2006071=
800722.html
I suspect the alternatives would never have been discovered =
if the original embryonic research had not occurred
"Mark" wrote in message =
news:4546d7de$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Bush was the first president to fund stem cell research at =
all. I guess he shouldn't have? And Gary is right, this breakthrough (if =
it even is that ultimately) has nothing to do with destroying embryos, =
rather it's a potentially solid argument for alternatives instead.
"Rich Gauszka" wrote
in message =
news:4546d47c{at}w3.nls.net...
Bush limited federal funds for stem cell research in =
2001 to the limited number of stem cells created before that date. In =
effect Bush did curtail research on non-embryonic stem cells
"Gary Britt"
wrote in =
message news:4546d0be{at}w3.nls.net...
Yep, it was Chord Blood stem cells NOT embryonic stem =
cells.
From your link. The tissue was created from blood =
taken from babies' umbilical cords just a few minutes after birth.
There is no federal funding ban on NON-Embryonic stem =
cell research, but don't let the facts get in the way or your politics. =
Michael J. Fox, nor any of the MSM do.
Gary Britt wrote:=20
Did they use EMBRYONIC stem cells? Bush is the =
first president to approve ANY federal funding for embryonic stem cells. =
He approved for existing cell lines. There is no law against embyonic =
stem cell research. If it was promising it would be funded privately.=20
So far all that embryonic stem cell research has =
produced are brain tumors and absolutely no, zero, nada cures of = anything.=20
There have been successes with chord blood stem =
cells and adult stem cells. Neither of which are banned from federal = funding.=20
The lefties like to quote stories about successful =
treatments from Chord blood and adult stem cell research, and then try = to
confuse readers/listeners as though that says something about = embryonic
stem cells research.=20
Embryonic stem cell research is not banned, just not =
federally funded. This debate is about people who want money from the =
government and not about finding cures.=20
Gary=20
Rich Gauszka wrote:=20
Rush Limbaugh will now proclaim British Scientists =
evil and in league with Michael J Fox in their diabolical attempt to =
embarrass the Bushies over stem cell research.=20
=
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_=
id=3D413551&in_page_id=3D1770&ico=3DHomepage&icl=3DTabModule&icc=3DNEWS&c=
t=3D5=20
British scientists have grown the world's first =
artificial liver from stem cells in a breakthrough that will one day =
provide entire organs for transplant.=20
The technique that created the 'mini-liver', =
currently the size of a one pence piece, will be developed to create a =
full-size functioning liver.=20
Described as a 'Eureka moment' by the Newcastle =
University researchers, the tissue was created from blood taken from =
babies' umbilical cords just a few minutes after birth.=20
As it stands, the mini organ can be used to test =
new drugs, preventing disasters such as the recent 'Elephant Man' drug =
trial. Using lab-grown liver tissue would also reduce the number of =
animal experiments.=20
Within five years, pieces of artificial tissue =
could be used to repair livers damaged by injury, disease, alcohol abuse =
and paracetamol overdose=20
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The disease is degenerative.
You forgot =
to mention=20
the film of Rush making fun of and imitating Fox shaking ( =
now Rush=20
claims the video is shown at a higher speed to embarrass him but as = MSNBC=20
pointed out his words aren't sped up in the video - interesting ) =
while he=20
said
=93exaggerating the effects of the =
disease. He=92s=20
moving all around and shaking and it=92s purely an act"
Rush was talking about the
political ad =
and not the=20
testimony before congress. Fox said this
http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-michaeljfox1028,0,7994384=
.story?coll=3Dny-entertainment-headlines">http://www.newsday.com/entertai=
nment/ny-michaeljfox1028,0,7994384.story?coll=3Dny-entertainment-headline=
s
On the contrary, he had been =
overmedicated, the=20
actor said during an interview aired on Thursday's "CBS Evening News =
with Katie=20
Couric."
"The=20
irony of it is that I was too medicated," Fox told Couric, adding that
= his jumpy=20
condition as he spoke to her reflected "a dearth of medication -- not
by = design.=20
I just take it, and it kicks in when it kicks
in.""That's funny =
-- the=20
notion that you could calculate it for effect," he said. "Would
that we=20 could."
"Mark" <nomail{at}hotmail.com>=20">mailto:nomail{at}hotmail.com">nomail{at}hotmail.com>=20
wrote in message news:4546e82c{at}w3.nls.net...
I actually heard Rush's original =
broadcast. To=20
say that what he said has been mischaracterized, is to make a great=20
understatement; but in seeing what the rest of the media chooses to =
air, it's=20
understandable that any casual observer would think Rush is an ogre =
too=20
<g>
Paraphrasing Rush (and I find it =
amusing that I=20
actually heard the broadcast, as I don't listen to him very often) and =
not=20
necessarily in proper chronological order, he said, "Wow, I've seen =
Fox in=20
Boston Legal and I like him and that show, but he seems perfectly =
normal in=20
the episodes I've seen, so he must be either acting or off his =
medications in=20
that commercial."
Then it turns out in Fox's own book, =
he relates=20
that he went off his meds to testify in front of congress so they'd =
get an=20
accurate picture of the devastating disease. So, I'm just not getting =
what=20
Rush said that was so offensive <unrelated, but I don't get was so=20
offensive about the blonde chick telling Harold Ford to call her=20
either>
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
=
wrote in=20
message news:4546e605$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Actually Rush Limbaugh is the one =
that went=20
over the top with his statement that Fox was acting with his =
disease.. I was=20
just lampooning Rush. Limbaugh has every right to criticize =
the=20
message but it really was low to make fun of Fox's predicament. And =
like the=20
weasel ( I should apologize for offending weasels ) Rush is he =
avoided and=20
debate with Fox when he was invited this weekend
"Mark" <nomail{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:nomail{at}hotmail.com">nomail{at}hotmail.com>
=
wrote in=20
message news:4546e343$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Bob, Rich was the one that went =
over the top=20
on this one: "Rush =
Limbaugh will now=20
proclaim British Scientists evil and in league with Michael J Fox =
in their=20
diabolical attempt to embarrass the Bushies over stem cell =
research."=20
If scientists want to do =
embryonic stem cell=20
research no one is stopping them, they're just going to have to =
find=20
someone besides us to pay for it. Maybe Branson would be better =
advised to=20
fund it instead of getting involved in the global warming nonsense =
to the=20
tune of $3B?
Actually, that's a bad example, =
as I believe=20
Branson is wisely funding alternative fuels with his donation, =
rather than=20
throwing money into the sky, like the alarmists want our =
governments to=20
do, maybe Soros will fund it? Or Gates? Or =
Buffet?
How about too, that expected =
1,900 pounds a=20
year increased tax proposal for every UK family to fund the=20
politicians global warming playground? <wow, maybe now the =
regular=20
folk that aren't paying attention will wake up, smell =
the coffee (or=20
tea as the UK case may be) and tell them to get over themselves -- =
when=20
they start picking the pockets of the public directly with their =
alarmism,=20
it's near the end game>
"Robert G Lewis" <r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net>">mailto:r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net">r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net>
= wrote=20
in message news:4546e0f1{at}w3.nls.net...
Except the articles quoted so far
do seem to =
make the=20
distinction. There does seem to be major differences in the =
usefulness=20
of the different types of stem cells with the Embryonic being =
the most=20
versatile.
"Mark" <nomail{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:nomail{at}hotmail.com">nomail{at}hotmail.com>
=
wrote in=20
message news:4546decf$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Aha Bob, you found me out,=20
<g> I was distorting the record, thus falsely =
making Bush=20
look good.
Hmm, kind of like when adult =
stem cell or=20
cord blood research successes are splashed around=20
indiscriminately to confuse people and try to make Bush=20
falsely look like an ogre.
"Robert G Lewis" <r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net>=20">mailto:r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net">r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net>=20
wrote in message news:4546dd06{at}w3.nls.net...
Be sort of hard for many presidents =
before Bush to=20
approve stem cell research. First stem cells were only =
isolated in=20
late 98
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/18/A=
R2006071800722.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article=
/2006/07/18/AR2006071800722.html
I suspect the alternatives would never =
have been=20
discovered if the original embryonic research had not=20
occurred
"Mark" <nomail{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:nomail{at}hotmail.com">nomail{at}hotmail.com>
wrote=20
in message news:4546d7de$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Bush was the first =
president to fund=20
stem cell research at all. I guess he shouldn't have? And =
Gary is=20
right, this breakthrough (if it even is that ultimately) =
has=20
nothing to do with destroying embryos, rather it's a =
potentially=20
solid argument for alternatives instead.
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>=20">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>=20
wrote in message news:4546d47c{at}w3.nls.net...
Bush limited federal =
funds for stem=20
cell research in 2001 to the=20
limited number of stem cells created before that date. =
In effect=20
Bush did curtail research on non-embryonic stem=20
cells
"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=
>=20
wrote in message news:4546d0be{at}w3.nls.net...Yep,=20
it was Chord Blood stem cells NOT embryonic stem=20
cells.From your
link. The =
tissue was=20
created from blood taken from babies' umbilical cords =
just a=20
few minutes after birth.There is no =
federal=20
funding ban on NON-Embryonic stem cell research, but =
don't let=20
the facts get in the way or your politics. =
Michael J.=20
Fox, nor any of the MSM
do.Gary Britt =
wrote:=20
Did they use
EMBRYONIC stem =
cells? =20
Bush is the first president to approve ANY federal =
funding=20
for embryonic stem cells. He approved for =
existing=20
cell lines. There is no law against embyonic =
stem cell=20
research. If it was promising it would be =
funded=20
privately. So far all that embryonic stem =
cell=20
research has produced are brain tumors and =
absolutely no,=20
zero, nada cures of anything. There have =
been=20
successes with chord blood stem cells and adult stem =
cells. Neither of which are banned from =
federal=20
funding. The lefties like to quote stories =
about=20
successful treatments from Chord blood and adult =
stem cell=20
research, and then try to confuse readers/listeners =
as=20
though that says something about embryonic stem =
cells=20
research. Embryonic stem cell research is =
not=20
banned, just not federally funded. This debate is =
about=20
people who want money from the government and not =
about=20
finding cures. Gary
Rich =
Gauszka=20
wrote:
Rush Limbaugh
will now =
proclaim=20
British Scientists evil and in league with Michael =
J Fox=20
in their diabolical attempt to embarrass the =
Bushies over=20
stem cell research. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_=
article_id=3D413551&in_page_id=3D1770&ico=3DHomepage&icl=3DTa=
bModule&icc=3DNEWS&ct=3D5">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/=
articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=3D413551&in_page_id=3D1770&=
ico=3DHomepage&icl=3DTabModule&icc=3DNEWS&ct=3D5=20
British scientists have grown the world's =
first=20
artificial liver from stem cells in a breakthrough =
that=20
will one day provide entire organs for transplant. =
The technique that created the =
'mini-liver',=20
currently the size of a one pence piece, will be =
developed=20
to create a full-size functioning liver. =
Described=20
as a 'Eureka moment' by the Newcastle University=20
researchers, the tissue was created from blood =
taken from=20
babies' umbilical cords just a few minutes after =
birth.=20
As it stands, the mini organ can be used =
to test=20
new drugs, preventing disasters such as the recent =
'Elephant Man' drug trial. Using lab-grown liver =
tissue=20
would also reduce the number of animal =
experiments.=20
Within five years, pieces of artificial =
tissue=20
could be used to repair livers damaged by injury, =
disease,=20
alcohol abuse and paracetamol overdose=20
=
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