From: Gary Britt 

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Its still ILLEGAL.  The county clerk said there was no problem IF it was
not against the law.  The Mayor rightly determined it IS against the law.

Then you quote this bullshit from someone else:

Polls are an ideal place to access large numbers of people who need the
vaccine."I'm disappointed this has happened,"he said.

So is the local grocery store, church, liquor store.  In fact much more
likely to get MORE people at those places than a single day polling place
event.  If it was really about serving the poor flu shots, they wouldn't be
REQUIRED to do it ONLY at polling places on election day. How are the
drunks who don't vote supposed to get their flu shot???? Don't they deserve
a flu shot?  In fact aren't they more in need of a flu shot than people
with enough sense to vote?  Want to get the poor drunks set up outside the
local liquor store or 7-eleven.

Its obvious this doesn't have a damn thing to do with flu shots for the
poor from the perspective of the people paying for the program.  Hence the
"funds only for polling place flu shots".

Gary


Robert G Lewis wrote:
> During early voting ,NOT  on election day and apparently cleared by
> the REPUBLICAN County Clerk and the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State. NO
> REQUIREMENT TO VOTE in order to get the shots. Just have to over the
> age of 50.
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Nov02/0,4670,VoteandVaccinate,00.html
> http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Nov02/0,4670,VoteandVaccinate,00..html>
>
> Dr. Douglas Shenson, the director of the flu-shot program for the
> foundation, said he does not know of problems with the program in any
> other city.
>
> "It's an entirely nonpartisan and nonpolitical activity,"Shenson
> said."It's not a get-out-the-vote campaign. It's a get-out-the-vaccine
> campaign."
>
> Polls are an ideal place to access large numbers of people who need
> the vaccine."I'm disappointed this has happened,"he said.
>
>
> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/4298775.html
>
>
> The "Vote and Vaccination" clinics are in Hispanic and black
> neighborhoods because studies show these ethnic groups are less likely
> to get flu shots, said Porfirio Villarreal, a spokesman for the city's
> health department.
>
> "This has nothing to do with politics," he said. "It's
an initiative
> to reach people who are at high risk and would not go to a doctor and
> clinic, but do take advantage of voting."
>
>
> I expect you would also object to giving people rides to the polls ,
> or handing out absentee ballots.
>
>
> Why do you object to the local government setting up free flu shots in
> poor areas ? Why do you object to free flu shots for the poor ?
>
>
>
>     "Gary Britt"      > wrote in message
>     news:454a8cda{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>     You quoted the part that makes it illegal Robert:
>
>     Stephen Williams, the city health chief, and White said the terms of the
>     *Amerigroup grant required a tie to polling places* in medically
undeserved
>     areas where populations are less likely to get vaccinations.
>
>     So the "private" funding REQUIRED that the flu shots be
given out ONLY on
election day, and
>     ONLY at polling places.  Yeah that's a real intent to serve the poor
there.  Nothing to do with people canvassing neighborhoods and telling
people come on down to vote, will drive you, and if you do come down and
vote you can get a free flu shot.
>
>     What if a "private" group wanted to fund some
"fun" into the lives of the
poor neighborhoods where there isn't a lot of "fun" and set up
funding for people to vote at a local liquor store and get a free pint of
whiskey of their choice.  Would you see any problems with that?  Because
that is EXACTLY the same as this bullshit flu shot vote fraud scheme.
>
>     Are you and Rich against poor people having some free fun and voting at
liquor stores?
>
>     Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     Robert G Lewis wrote:
>>     From the article
>>
>>     Before launching the program, Williams' staff consulted with Republican
>>     Harris County Clerk Beverly Kaufman, the county's top election official,
who
>>     offered support provided that the initiative complied with applicable
laws.
>>
>>     Kaufman's spokesman, David Beirne, said erroneous media reports might
have
>>     fueled the perception that voting was related to receiving something of
>>     value, which could violate the law. "It's not tied to the voting
practice,
>>     which is a critical element," he said. "We did not
see anything on its
face
>>     to indicate that it would be a clear violation of election law."
>>
>>     Scott Haywood, a spokesman for Texas Secretary of State Roger Williams,
also
>>     a Republican, said in an e-mail that "there is nothing wrong with a
health
>>     clinic being located at the same site that voting is taking place,"
provided
>>     that people weren't required to vote to get the service.
>>
>>     Stephen Williams, the city health chief, and White said the terms of the
>>     Amerigroup grant required a tie to polling places in medically
underserved
>>     areas where populations are less likely to get vaccinations.
>>
>>
>>     "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>>     news:454a79b3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>>>     Its the law.  Giving somebody booze, cigarettes, money,
gold, or a flu
>>>     shot is paying for somebody to vote and violated a very specific
statute
>>>     applicable to that region.
>>>
>>>     Its also bullshit they were trying to reach medically
undeserved areas.
>>>     They were trying to pay people to come vote.
>>>
>>>     Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>     Phil Payne wrote:
>>>
>>>>     http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/4304540.html
>>>>
>>>>     "Mayor Bill White ordered a halt Wednesday to the
city health
>>>>     department's
>>>>     privately funded drive to offer flu vaccinations at
early voting sites
in
>>>>     predominantly Hispanic and black neighborhoods, amid
conservative
>>>>     criticism
>>>>     that the effort would boost Democratic turnout.
>>>>
>>>>     About 1,300 flu shots were given to people age 50 or
older in the past
>>>>     three
>>>>     days under the program, which didn't require the
recipients to vote.
>>>>     Health
>>>>     officials said they were only trying to reach people
in medically
>>>>     underserved communities."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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Its still ILLEGAL.  The county clerk said there was no problem IF
it was not against the law.  The Mayor rightly determined it IS
against the law.

Then you quote this bullshit from someone else:

Polls are an ideal
place to access large
numbers of people who need the vaccine."I'm disappointed this has
happened,"he said.

So is the local grocery store, church, liquor store.  In fact much
more likely to get MORE people at those places than a single day polling
place event.  If it was really about serving the poor flu shots,
they wouldn't be REQUIRED to do it ONLY at polling places on election
day.  How are the drunks who don't vote supposed to get their flu
shot????  
Don't they deserve a flu shot?  In fact aren't they more in need
of a flu shot than people with enough sense to vote?  Want to get
the poor drunks set up outside the local liquor store or
7-eleven.

Its obvious this doesn't have a damn thing to do with flu shots for the
poor from the perspective of the people paying for the program. 
Hence the "funds only for polling place flu shots".

Gary


Robert G Lewis wrote:

  
  
  
  During early voting ,NOT
 on election day and
apparently cleared by the REPUBLICAN County Clerk and the REPUBLICAN
Secretary of State. NO REQUIREMENT TO VOTE in order to get the shots. Just
have to over the age of 50.
   
  http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Nov02/0,4670,VoteandVaccinate,00..html"
>http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Nov02/0,4670,VoteandVaccinate,00.html
nt>
   
  Dr. Douglas Shenson, the
director of the flu-shot
program for the foundation, said he does not know of problems with the
program in any other city.
   
  "It's an entirely
nonpartisan and nonpolitical
activity,"Shenson said."It's not a get-out-the-vote campaign.
It's a get-out-the-vaccine campaign."
   
  Polls are an ideal place to
access large numbers
of people who need the vaccine."I'm disappointed this has
happened,"he said.
   
   
  http://www.ch" target="new">http://www.ch">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/4298775.html">http://www.ch
ron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/4298775.html
   
   
  The "Vote and
Vaccination" clinics are in
Hispanic and black neighborhoods because studies show these ethnic groups
are less likely to get flu shots, said Porfirio Villarreal, a spokesman for
the city's health department.
   
  "This has nothing to do
with politics," he said.
"It's an initiative to reach people who are at high risk and would not
go to a doctor and clinic, but do take advantage of
voting."
   
   
  I expect you would also object
to giving people
rides to the polls , or handing out absentee ballots.
   
   
  Why do you object to the local
government setting
up free flu shots in poor areas ? Why do you object to free flu shots for
the poor ?
   
   
  

    "Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM
{at}gencogDOTcom.com>
wrote in message news:454a8cda{at}w3.nls.net...
    
You quoted the part that makes it illegal Robert:
    
    Stephen Williams, the city health chief,
and White said the
terms of the
Amerigroup grant
required a tie to polling
places in medically undeserved areas
where populations are less likely to get vaccinations.

So the "private"
funding REQUIRED that the flu shots be
given out ONLY on election day, and ONLY at polling places.  Yeah that's a
real intent to serve the poor there. Nothing to do with people canvassing
neighborhoods and telling people come on down to vote, will drive you, and
if you do come down and vote you can get a free flu shot.

What if a "private" group wanted to fund some "fun"
into the lives of the poor neighborhoods where there isn't a lot of
"fun" and set up funding for people to vote at a local liquor
store and get a free pint of whiskey of their choice. Would you see any
problems with that?  Because that is EXACTLY the same as this bullshit flu
shot vote fraud scheme.

Are you and Rich against poor people having some free fun and voting at
liquor stores?

Gary

    
    
    
    
    
Robert G Lewis wrote:
    
      From the article

Before launching the program, Williams' staff consulted with Republican
Harris County Clerk Beverly Kaufman, the county's top election official,
who offered support provided that the initiative complied with applicable
laws.

Kaufman's spokesman, David Beirne, said erroneous media reports might have
fueled the perception that voting was related to receiving something of
value, which could violate the law. "It's not tied to the voting
practice, which is a critical element," he said. "We did not see
anything on its face to indicate that it would be a clear violation of
election law."

Scott Haywood, a spokesman for Texas Secretary of State Roger Williams,
also a Republican, said in an e-mail that "there is nothing wrong with
a health clinic being located at the same site that voting is taking
place," provided that people weren't required to vote to get the
service.

Stephen Williams, the city health chief, and White said the terms of the
Amerigroup grant required a tie to polling places in medically underserved
areas where populations are less likely to get vaccinations.


"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com>mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com"><glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com>
> wrote in message
news:454a79b
3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  
      
        Its the law.  Giving somebody booze,
cigarettes, money,
gold, or a flu
shot is paying for somebody to vote and violated a very specific statute
applicable to that region.

Its also bullshit they were trying to reach medically undeserved areas.
They were trying to pay people to come vote.

Gary


Phil Payne wrote:
    
        
          http://www.c" target="new">http://www.c">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/4304540.html">http://www.c
hron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/4304540.html

"Mayor Bill White ordered a halt Wednesday to the city health department's
privately funded drive to offer flu vaccinations at early voting sites in
predominantly Hispanic and black neighborhoods, amid conservative criticism
that the effort would boost Democratic turnout.

About 1,300 flu shots were given to people age 50 or older in the past three
days under the program, which didn't require the recipients to vote. Health
officials said they were only trying to reach people in medically
underserved communities."


      
        
      
      

  
    
    
  





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