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"Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in message
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> http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3023
>
> "Forget no-fly lists. If Uncle Sam gets its way, beginning on Jan. 14,
> 2007, we'll all be on no-fly lists, unless the government gives us
> permission to leave-or re-enter-the United States.
>
> The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (HSA) has proposed that all
> airlines, cruise lines-even fishing boats-be required to obtain
> clearance for each passenger they propose taking into or out of the
> United States.
>
> It doesn't matter if you have a U.S. Passport - a "travel document"
> that now, absent a court order to the contrary, gives you a virtually
> unqualified right to enter or leave the United States, any time you
> want. When the DHS system comes into effect next January, if the
> agency says "no" to a clearance request, or doesn't answer the
> request at all, you won't be permitted to enter-or leave-the United
> States.
>
> Consider what might happen if you're a U.S. passport holder on
> assignment in a country like Saudi Arabia. Your visa is about to
> expire, so you board your flight back to the United States. But wait!
> You can't get on, because you don't have permission from the HSA.
> Saudi immigration officials are on hand to escort you to a squalid
> detention center, where you and others who are now effectively
> "stateless persons" are detained, potentially indefinitely, until
> their immigration status is sorted out.
>
> Why might the HSA deny you permission to leave-or enter-the United
> States? No one knows, because the entire clearance procedure would be
> an administrative determination made secretly, with no right of
> appeal. Naturally, the decision would be made without a warrant,
> without probable cause and without even any particular degree of
> suspicion. Basically, if the HSA decides it doesn't like you, you're
> a prisoner - either outside, or inside, the United States, whether or
> not you hold a U.S. passport.
>
> The U.S. Supreme Court has long recognized there is a constitutional
> right to travel internationally. Indeed, it has declared that the
> right to travel is "a virtually unconditional personal right." The
> United States has also signed treaties guaranteeing "freedom of
> travel." So if these regulations do go into effect, you can expect a
> lengthy court battle, both nationally and internationally.
>
> Think this can't happen? Think again. It's ALREADY happening. Earlier
> this year, HSA forbade airlines from transporting an 18-year-old a
> native-born U.S. citizen, back to the United States. The prohibition
> lasted nearly six months until it was finally lifted a few weeks ago.
> Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union are two countries in recent history
> that didn't allow their citizens to travel abroad without permission.
> If these regulations go into effect, you can add the United States to
> this list.
>
> For more information on this proposed regulation, see http://
> hasbrouck.org/IDP/IDP-APIS-comments.pdf."
>
>
> No reason to think this could not be enforced at land border crossings
> as well.
>
> Adam

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