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to: Mark
from: John Beamish
date: 2006-11-04 00:19:00
subject: Re: Neocons turn on Bush

From: "John Beamish" 

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2006/12/neocons200612?currentPage=1

Richard Perle: "Huge mistakes were made, and I want to be very clear
on this: They were not made by neoconservatives, who had almost no voice in
what happened, and certainly almost no voice in what happened after the
downfall of the regime in Baghdad. I'm getting damn tired of being
described
as an architect of the war. I was in favor of bringing down Saddam. Nobody
said, 'Go design the campaign to do that.' I had no responsibility for
that."

Kenneth Adelman: "The most dispiriting and awful moment of the whole
administration was the day that Bush gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom
to [former C.I.A. director] George Tenet, General Tommy Franks, and
[Coalition Provisional Authority chief] Jerry [Paul] Bremer-three of the
most incompetent people who've ever served in such key spots. And they get
the highest civilian honor a president can bestow on anyone! That was the
day I checked out of this administration. It was then I thought, There's no
seriousness here, these are not serious people. If he had been serious, the
president would have realized that those three are each directly
responsible
for the disaster of Iraq."

David Frum: "I always believed as a speechwriter that if you could
persuade the president to commit himself to certain words, he would feel
himself committed to the ideas that underlay those words. And the big shock
to me has been that although the president said the words, he just did not
absorb the ideas. And that is the root of, maybe, everything."

Michael Ledeen, American Enterprise Institute freedom scholar: "Ask yourself
who the most powerful people in the White House are. They are women who are
in love with the president: Laura [Bush], Condi, Harriet Miers, and Karen
Hughes."


On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:46:38 -0500, Mark  wrote:

> They are hypocrites. Weak-minded, mushy-wooshy ones at that.
>
> I have no problem with you pacifist, anti-war at any cost, even at the
> cost
> of the loss of our nation, weak-kneed types -- at least you're
> consistently
> wrong-minded.
>
> But those guys are the height of hypocrisy to support a given direction,
> then to wimp out unceremoniously after only a few years -- disgusting is
> right.
>
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:454c1905{at}w3.nls.net...
>> But don't ever blame themselves for supporting Bush in these endeavors
>> --
>> what hypocrites.  It just disgusts me.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> news:454c1798{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Well at least Bush and Rumsfeld like each other
>>>
>>> http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2006/12/neocons200612
>>>
>>> As Iraq slips further into chaos, the war's neoconservative boosters
>>> have
>>> turned sharply on the Bush administration, charging that their grand
>>> designs have been undermined by White House incompetence. In a series
>>> of
>>> exclusive interviews, Richard Perle, Kenneth Adelman, David Frum, and
>>> others play the blame game with shocking frankness. Target No. 1: the
>>> president himself.
>>>
>>> ..
>>>
>>> I expect to encounter disappointment. What I find instead is despair,
>>> and
>>> fury at the incompetence of the Bush administration the
>>> neoconservatives
>>> once saw as their brightest hope.
>>>
>>> To David Frum, the former White House speechwriter who co-wrote Bush's
>>> 2002 State of the Union address that accused Iraq of being part of an
>>> "axis of evil," it now looks as if defeat may be
inescapable, because
>>> "the insurgency has proven it can kill anyone who
cooperates, and the
>>> United States and its friends have failed to prove that it can protect
>>> them." This situation, he says, must ultimately be blamed
on "failure
>>> at
>>> the center"-starting with President Bush.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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