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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Gary Britt
date: 2006-10-31 00:20:38
subject: Re: Human liver grown from stem cells

From: Gary Britt 

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I believe you are wrong Rich.  It was limited to embryonic stem cells. He
said OK to existing embryonic lines because those embryos were already
killed.  He said no to new additional lines of embryonic stem cells,
because that would cause the new destruction of new embryos.

Stem cell research from chord blood and adult stem cells are not covered. 
Check your facts, because you've got them wrong.

Gary


Rich Gauszka wrote:
> Bush limited federal funds for stem cell research in 2001 to the
> limited number of stem cells created before that date. In effect Bush
> did curtail research on non-embryonic stem cells
>
>
>     "Gary Britt"      > wrote in message
>     news:4546d0be{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>     Yep, it was Chord Blood stem cells NOT embryonic stem cells.
>
>     From your link.   *The tissue was created from blood taken from
>     babies' umbilical cords just a few minutes after birth.*
>
>     There is no federal funding ban on NON-Embryonic stem cell
>     research, but don't let the facts get in the way or your
>     politics.  Michael J. Fox, nor any of the MSM do.
>
>
>
>     Gary Britt wrote:
>>
>>     Did they use EMBRYONIC stem cells?  Bush is the first president
>>     to approve ANY federal funding for embryonic stem cells.  He
>>     approved for existing cell lines.  There is no law against
>>     embyonic stem cell research.  If it was promising it would be
>>     funded privately.
>>
>>     So far all that embryonic stem cell research has produced are
>>     brain tumors and absolutely no, zero, nada cures of anything.
>>
>>     There have been successes with chord blood stem cells and adult
>>     stem cells.  Neither of which are banned from federal funding.
>>
>>     The lefties like to quote stories about successful treatments
>>     from Chord blood and adult stem cell research, and then try to
>>     confuse readers/listeners as though that says something about
>>     embryonic stem cells research.
>>
>>     Embryonic stem cell research is not banned, just not federally
>>     funded. This debate is about people who want money from the
>>     government and not about finding cures.
>>
>>     Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>     Rich Gauszka wrote:
>>>     Rush Limbaugh will now proclaim British Scientists evil and in
>>>     league with Michael J Fox in their diabolical attempt to
>>>     embarrass the Bushies over stem cell research.
>>>
>>>    
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_articl
e_id=413551&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=NEWS&ct=5
>>>
>>>     British scientists have grown the world's first artificial liver
>>>     from stem cells in a breakthrough that will one day provide
>>>     entire organs for transplant.
>>>
>>>     The technique that created the 'mini-liver', currently the size
>>>     of a one pence piece, will be developed to create a full-size
>>>     functioning liver.
>>>
>>>     Described as a 'Eureka moment' by the Newcastle University
>>>     researchers, the tissue was created from blood taken from
>>>     babies' umbilical cords just a few minutes after birth.
>>>
>>>     As it stands, the mini organ can be used to test new drugs,
>>>     preventing disasters such as the recent 'Elephant Man' drug
>>>     trial. Using lab-grown liver tissue would also reduce the number
>>>     of animal experiments.
>>>
>>>     Within five years, pieces of artificial tissue could be used to
>>>     repair livers damaged by injury, disease, alcohol abuse and
>>>     paracetamol overdose
>>>
>>>
>


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I believe you are wrong Rich.  It was limited to embryonic stem
cells. 
He said OK to existing embryonic lines because those embryos were already
killed.  He said no to new additional lines of embryonic stem
cells, because that would cause the new destruction of new
embryos.

Stem cell research from chord blood and adult stem cells are not
covered.  Check your facts, because you've got them
wrong.

Gary


Rich Gauszka wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Bush
limited federal funds for stem
cell research in 2001 to the limited number of stem cells created before
that date. In effect Bush did curtail research on non-embryonic stem
cells
   
  
"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM {at}gencogDOTcom.com> wrote in message news:4546d0be{at}w3.nls.net... Yep, it was Chord Blood stem cells NOT embryonic stem cells. From your link. The tissue was created from blood taken from babies' umbilical cords just a few minutes after birth. There is no federal funding ban on NON-Embryonic stem cell research, but don't let the facts get in the way or your politics. Michael J. Fox, nor any of the MSM do. Gary Britt wrote:
Did they use EMBRYONIC stem cells? Bush is the first president to approve ANY federal funding for embryonic stem cells. He approved for existing cell lines. There is no law against embyonic stem cell research. If it was promising it would be funded privately. So far all that embryonic stem cell research has produced are brain tumors and absolutely no, zero, nada cures of anything. There have been successes with chord blood stem cells and adult stem cells. Neither of which are banned from federal funding. The lefties like to quote stories about successful treatments from Chord blood and adult stem cell research, and then try to confuse readers/listeners as though that says something about embryonic stem cells research. Embryonic stem cell research is not banned, just not federally funded. This debate is about people who want money from the government and not about finding cures. Gary Rich Gauszka wrote: Rush Limbaugh will now proclaim British Scientists evil and in league with Michael J Fox in their diabolical attempt to embarrass the Bushies over stem cell research. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article _id=413551&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=NEWS& amp;ct=5">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_arti cle_id=413551&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=NE WS&ct=5 British scientists have grown the world's first artificial liver from stem cells in a breakthrough that will one day provide entire organs for transplant. The technique that created the 'mini-liver', currently the size of a one pence piece, will be developed to create a full-size functioning liver. Described as a 'Eureka moment' by the Newcastle University researchers, the tissue was created from blood taken from babies' umbilical cords just a few minutes after birth. As it stands, the mini organ can be used to test new drugs, preventing disasters such as the recent 'Elephant Man' drug trial. Using lab-grown liver tissue would also reduce the number of animal experiments. Within five years, pieces of artificial tissue could be used to repair livers damaged by injury, disease, alcohol abuse and paracetamol overdose --------------040703090408090602040606-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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