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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Gary Britt
date: 2006-11-02 23:10:36
subject: Re: GOP blocks flu shots

From: Gary Britt 




  



Well I think non-citizens, non-registered, and the DEAD should not
vote.  I also think national elections should be english ballots
ONLY. 
Every fraudulent voter is a disenfranchisement of qualified voters.

Gary

Rich Gauszka wrote:

  
  
  I agree
that people should want to
vote - I also state that people who wish to vote and are eligible should
NOT be blocked from voting
   
  
"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM {at}gencogDOTcom.com> wrote in message news:454ab495$1{at}w3.nls.ne t... That would be illegal as well. Further people should vote because they want to vote. Not because they want to gamble. If voting isn't important enough in and of itself to go vote and a person needs a gambling incentive to vote, then I say that person isn't qualified to vote and shouldn't be voting anyway. Gary Rich Gauszka wrote: So I take it you do not approve of the Arizona million dollar lottery vote?
"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com>">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com> wrote in message news:454aa54b{at}w3.nls.net... Its still ILLEGAL. The county clerk said there was no problem IF it was not against the law. The Mayor rightly determined it IS against the law. Then you quote this bullshit from someone else: Polls are an ideal place to access large numbers of people who need the vaccine."I'm disappointed this has happened,"he said. So is the local grocery store, church, liquor store. In fact much more likely to get MORE people at those places than a single day polling place event. If it was really about serving the poor flu shots, they wouldn't be REQUIRED to do it ONLY at polling places on election day. How are the drunks who don't vote supposed to get their flu shot???? Don't they deserve a flu shot? In fact aren't they more in need of a flu shot than people with enough sense to vote? Want to get the poor drunks set up outside the local liquor store or 7-eleven. Its obvious this doesn't have a damn thing to do with flu shots for the poor from the perspective of the people paying for the program. Hence the "funds only for polling place flu shots". Gary Robert G Lewis wrote:
During early voting ,NOT on election day and apparently cleared by the REPUBLICAN County Clerk and the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State. NO REQUIREMENT TO VOTE in order to get the shots. Just have to over the age of 50. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Nov02/0,4670,VoteandVaccinate,00....htm l"><" target="new">http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Nov02/0,4670,VoteandVaccinate,00..html< /font> Dr. Douglas Shenson, the director of the flu-shot program for the foundation, said he does not know of problems with the program in any other city. "It's an entirely nonpartisan and nonpolitical activity,"Shenson said."It's not a get-out-the-vote campaign. It's a get-out-the-vaccine campaign." Polls are an ideal place to access large numbers of people who need the vaccine."I'm disappointed this has happened,"he said. http://www.ch" target="new">http://www.ch">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/4298775.html">http://www.ch ron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/4298775.html The "Vote and Vaccination" clinics are in Hispanic and black neighborhoods because studies show these ethnic groups are less likely to get flu shots, said Porfirio Villarreal, a spokesman for the city's health department. "This has nothing to do with politics," he said. "It's an initiative to reach people who are at high risk and would not go to a doctor and clinic, but do take advantage of voting." I expect you would also object to giving people rides to the polls , or handing out absentee ballots. Why do you object to the local government setting up free flu shots in poor areas ? Why do you object to free flu shots for the poor ?
"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com>">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com> wrote in message news:454a8cda{at}w3.nls.net... You quoted the part that makes it illegal Robert: Stephen Williams, the city health chief, and White said the terms of the Amerigroup grant required a tie to polling places in medically undeserved areas where populations are less likely to get vaccinations. So the "private" funding REQUIRED that the flu shots be given out ONLY on election day, and ONLY at polling places. Yeah that's a real intent to serve the poor there. Nothing to do with people canvassing neighborhoods and telling people come on down to vote, will drive you, and if you do come down and vote you can get a free flu shot. What if a "private" group wanted to fund some "fun" into the lives of the poor neighborhoods where there isn't a lot of "fun" and set up funding for people to vote at a local liquor store and get a free pint of whiskey of their choice. Would you see any problems with that? Because that is EXACTLY the same as this bullshit flu shot vote fraud scheme. Are you and Rich against poor people having some free fun and voting at liquor stores? Gary Robert G Lewis wrote:
From the article Before launching the program, Williams' staff consulted with Republican Harris County Clerk Beverly Kaufman, the county's top election official, who offered support provided that the initiative complied with applicable laws. Kaufman's spokesman, David Beirne, said erroneous media reports might have fueled the perception that voting was related to receiving something of value, which could violate the law. "It's not tied to the voting practice, which is a critical element," he said. "We did not see anything on its face to indicate that it would be a clear violation of election law." Scott Haywood, a spokesman for Texas Secretary of State Roger Williams, also a Republican, said in an e-mail that "there is nothing wrong with a health clinic being located at the same site that voting is taking place," provided that people weren't required to vote to get the service. Stephen Williams, the city health chief, and White said the terms of the Amerigroup grant required a tie to polling places in medically underserved areas where populations are less likely to get vaccinations. "Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com>mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com"><glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com> > wrote in message news:454a79b 3$1{at}w3.nls.net... Its the law. Giving somebody booze, cigarettes, money, gold, or a flu shot is paying for somebody to vote and violated a very specific statute applicable to that region. Its also bullshit they were trying to reach medically undeserved areas. They were trying to pay people to come vote. Gary Phil Payne wrote: http://www.c" target="new">http://www.c">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/4304540.html">http://www.c hron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/4304540.html "Mayor Bill White ordered a halt Wednesday to the city health department's privately funded drive to offer flu vaccinations at early voting sites in predominantly Hispanic and black neighborhoods, amid conservative criticism that the effort would boost Democratic turnout. About 1,300 flu shots were given to people age 50 or older in the past three days under the program, which didn't require the recipients to vote. Health officials said they were only trying to reach people in medically underserved communities." --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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