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to: Robert G Lewis
from: Gary Britt
date: 2006-11-02 19:22:26
subject: Re: GOP blocks flu shots

From: Gary Britt 

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You quoted the part that makes it illegal Robert:

Stephen Williams, the city health chief, and White said the terms of the
*Amerigroup grant required a tie to polling places* in medically undeserved
areas where populations are less likely to get vaccinations.

So the "private" funding REQUIRED that the flu shots be given out
ONLY on election day, and
ONLY at polling places.  Yeah that's a real intent to serve the poor there.
Nothing to do with people canvassing neighborhoods and telling people come
on down to vote, will drive you, and if you do come down and vote you can
get a free flu shot.

What if a "private" group wanted to fund some "fun"
into the lives of the poor neighborhoods where there isn't a lot of
"fun" and set up funding for people to vote at a local liquor
store and get a free pint of whiskey of their choice. Would you see any
problems with that?  Because that is EXACTLY the same as this bullshit flu
shot vote fraud scheme.

Are you and Rich against poor people having some free fun and voting at
liquor stores?

Gary






Robert G Lewis wrote:
> From the article
>
> Before launching the program, Williams' staff consulted with Republican
> Harris County Clerk Beverly Kaufman, the county's top election official, who
> offered support provided that the initiative complied with applicable laws.
>
> Kaufman's spokesman, David Beirne, said erroneous media reports might have
> fueled the perception that voting was related to receiving something of
> value, which could violate the law. "It's not tied to the voting practice,
> which is a critical element," he said. "We did not see
anything on its face
> to indicate that it would be a clear violation of election law."
>
> Scott Haywood, a spokesman for Texas Secretary of State Roger Williams, also
> a Republican, said in an e-mail that "there is nothing wrong with a health
> clinic being located at the same site that voting is taking
place," provided
> that people weren't required to vote to get the service.
>
> Stephen Williams, the city health chief, and White said the terms of the
> Amerigroup grant required a tie to polling places in medically underserved
> areas where populations are less likely to get vaccinations.
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:454a79b3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>> Its the law.  Giving somebody booze, cigarettes, money, gold, or a flu
>> shot is paying for somebody to vote and violated a very specific statute
>> applicable to that region.
>>
>> Its also bullshit they were trying to reach medically undeserved areas.
>> They were trying to pay people to come vote.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> Phil Payne wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/4304540.html
>>>
>>> "Mayor Bill White ordered a halt Wednesday to the city health
>>> department's
>>> privately funded drive to offer flu vaccinations at early
voting sites in
>>> predominantly Hispanic and black neighborhoods, amid conservative
>>> criticism
>>> that the effort would boost Democratic turnout.
>>>
>>> About 1,300 flu shots were given to people age 50 or older in the past
>>> three
>>> days under the program, which didn't require the recipients to vote.
>>> Health
>>> officials said they were only trying to reach people in medically
>>> underserved communities."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>


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You quoted the part that makes it illegal Robert:

Stephen Williams, the city health chief, and
White said the terms
of the
Amerigroup grant
required a tie to polling
places in medically undeserved areas
where populations are less likely to get vaccinations.

So the "private"
funding REQUIRED that the flu shots be
given out ONLY on election day, and ONLY at polling places.  Yeah that's a
real intent to serve the poor there. Nothing to do with people canvassing
neighborhoods and telling people come on down to vote, will drive you, and
if you do come down and vote you can get a free flu shot.

What if a "private" group wanted to fund some "fun"
into the lives of the poor neighborhoods where there isn't a lot of
"fun" and set up funding for people to vote at a local liquor
store and get a free pint of whiskey of their choice. Would you see any
problems with that?  Because that is EXACTLY the same as this bullshit flu
shot vote fraud scheme.

Are you and Rich against poor people having some free fun and voting at
liquor stores?

Gary






Robert G Lewis wrote:

  From the article

Before launching the program, Williams' staff consulted with Republican
Harris County Clerk Beverly Kaufman, the county's top election official,
who offered support provided that the initiative complied with applicable
laws.

Kaufman's spokesman, David Beirne, said erroneous media reports might have
fueled the perception that voting was related to receiving something of
value, which could violate the law. "It's not tied to the voting
practice, which is a critical element," he said. "We did not see
anything on its face to indicate that it would be a clear violation of
election law."

Scott Haywood, a spokesman for Texas Secretary of State Roger Williams,
also a Republican, said in an e-mail that "there is nothing wrong with
a health clinic being located at the same site that voting is taking
place," provided that people weren't required to vote to get the
service.

Stephen Williams, the city health chief, and White said the terms of the
Amerigroup grant required a tie to polling places in medically underserved
areas where populations are less likely to get vaccinations.


"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com>">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com"><glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com>
wrote in message
news:454a79b
3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  
  
    Its the law.  Giving somebody booze,
cigarettes, money, gold,
or a flu
shot is paying for somebody to vote and violated a very specific statute
applicable to that region.

Its also bullshit they were trying to reach medically undeserved areas.
They were trying to pay people to come vote.

Gary


Phil Payne wrote:
    
    
      http://www.ch" target="new">http://www.ch">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/4304540.html">http://www.ch
ron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/4304540.html

"Mayor Bill White ordered a halt Wednesday to the city health department's
privately funded drive to offer flu vaccinations at early voting sites in
predominantly Hispanic and black neighborhoods, amid conservative criticism
that the effort would boost Democratic turnout.

About 1,300 flu shots were given to people age 50 or older in the past three
days under the program, which didn't require the recipients to vote. Health
officials said they were only trying to reach people in medically
underserved communities."


      
    
  
  

  





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