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to: Gary Britt
from: Robert G Lewis
date: 2006-11-03 10:15:10
subject: Re: New Jersey Democrat Objects To Military Personnel Voting

From: "Robert G Lewis" 

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Er why would the attack ad recipient vote for my mother ?

I'm wondering if their is as easy way to see if Mother votes Tuesday.

So far Mother has received more than 5  items from the Republicans, all =
attack ads telling me Democrats are evil, none telling me what is good =
about the republicans or what they stand for , and 1 item from the =
Democratic State Senator. The Democrat sent a personal letter with a =
clipping written by someone with the same name as mother.  A good move = to
build good will except it was the wrong person and arrived on or near = the
anniversary of Mothers death. Not because of this but I wish that = State
Senator would get some good competition sometime.


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
= news:454b66a1$1{at}w3.nls.net...

  Do any of those attack ad mailers tell the recipient that if your =
mother is dead then they can vote for her?

  Gary

  Robert G Lewis wrote:=20
    The emails are not as far as I can tell sent over a private secured =
network. I wonder what validations are in place to ensure the person =
sending the email is indeed the voter and that the ballot hasn't been =
tampered with. They do seem to mention at least some of the risks to the =
military personnel.

    Identity theft isn't something that I would joke about. it can take =
years to correct, surly you would not wish that on anyone, much less our = troops.

    Since you bring up dead voters I wonder why the Republicans keep =
sending attack ads to my mother, who's been dead for a year.=20


    "Gary Britt"  wrote in message =
news:454ac2d8{at}w3.nls.net...

      The emails are held private by DOD, and the military's right to =
vote is more important than worrying about a democrat trying to steal = their SSN.

      People who don't have to prove they are citizens to vote and don't =
have to show a voter photo ID to vote don't have to worry about having =
their identity stolen.  Many have likely stolen the identity of a real =
dead or alive voter already.

      Gary

      Robert G Lewis wrote:=20
 I do think there are  valid concerns about the possibility of fraud.

another article

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=3DviewArticleBasic=
&articleId=3D268797

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/30/AR2006103=
001062.html

Would you use normal email with your SSN , etc

I wish I could find a copy of the letter though.



"Gary Britt"  wrote in
message=20 news:454aa723$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  WASHINGTON (AP) -- A New Jersey congressman raised questions Thursday=20
about a new military voting program that lets service members request = and=20
submit their ballots by fax or e-mail.

Pentagon spokeswoman Cynthia Smith said the Defense Department has set = up=20
a secure absentee voter program that will allow military members to=20
request and receive absentee ballots. The new program, she said, lets=20
people vote without relying on the regular mail system.

As part of the program, many states allow military members deployed=20
overseas to return their completed ballot via fax or the Internet. Those =

ballots, Smith said, will not pass through the hands of any government=20
officials until they are received by a local election authority.


The congressman says he's worried that making it easy for military=20
overseas and in Iraq to vote via Internet absentee ballots might  cause=20
them to be subject to identity theft.   YEAH RIGHT.  He also said they=20
should get a flu shot when voting in the DOD's Internet voting for=20 military.

Gary


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/V/VOTING_MILITARY?SITE=3D7219&SECTIO=
N=3DHOME&TEMPLATE=3DDEFAULT&CTIME=3D2006-11-02-17-51-16=20
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Er why would the attack ad recipient vote for my =
mother=20
?
 
I'm wondering if their is as easy way to see if =
Mother votes=20
Tuesday.
 
So far Mother has received more than 5 =
 items from=20
the Republicans, all attack ads telling me Democrats are evil,
none = telling=20
me what is good about the republicans or what they stand for , and
= 1 item=20
from the Democratic State Senator. The Democrat sent a personal letter = with a=20
clipping written by someone with the same name as =
mother.  A good=20
move to build good will except it was the wrong person and arrived on or = near=20
the anniversary of Mothers death. Not because of this but I wish that = State=20
Senator would get some good competition sometime.
 
 
"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=
>=20
wrote in message news:454b66a1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Do=20
  any of those attack ad mailers tell the recipient that if your mother =
is dead=20
  then they can vote for
her?GaryRobert G Lewis wrote:=20
  
    
    

    The emails are not as far as I can tell sent =
over a=20
    private secured network. I wonder what validations are in place to =
ensure=20
    the person sending the email is indeed the voter and that the ballot =
hasn't=20
    been tampered with. They do seem to mention at least some of the =
risks to=20
    the military personnel.
     
    Identity theft isn't something
that I would =
joke=20
    about. it can take years to correct, surly you would not wish that =
on=20
    anyone, much less our troops.
     
    Since you bring up dead voters I wonder
why the=20
    Republicans keep sending attack ads to my mother, who's been =
dead for a=20
    year. 
     
     
    "Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=
>=20
    wrote in message news:454ac2d8{at}w3.nls.net...
    The=20
      emails are held private by DOD, and the military's right to vote =
is more=20
      important than worrying about a democrat trying to steal their=20
      SSN.People who don't have to prove they are citizens to =
vote and=20
      don't have to show a voter photo ID to vote don't have to worry =
about=20
      having their identity stolen.  Many have likely stolen the =
identity=20
      of a real dead or alive voter
already.GaryRobert G =
Lewis=20
      wrote:=20
      
 I do think there are  valid concerns about the
possibility of = fraud.

another article

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=3DviewArti=
cleBasic&articleId=3D268797">http://www.computerworld.com/action/arti=
cle.do?command=3DviewArticleBasic&articleId=3D268797

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/30/A=
R2006103001062.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article=
/2006/10/30/AR2006103001062.html

Would you use normal email with your SSN , etc

I wish I could find a copy of the letter though.



"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com"><glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=
> wrote in message=20
news:454aa723$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  
        
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A =
New Jersey congressman raised questions Thursday=20 about a new military
voting program that lets service members request = and=20
submit their ballots by fax or e-mail.

Pentagon spokeswoman Cynthia Smith said the Defense Department has set = up=20
a secure absentee voter program that will allow military members to=20
request and receive absentee ballots. The new program, she said, lets=20
people vote without relying on the regular mail system.

As part of the program, many states allow military members deployed=20
overseas to return their completed ballot via fax or the Internet. Those =

ballots, Smith said, will not pass through the hands of any government=20
officials until they are received by a local election authority.


The congressman says he's worried that making it easy for military=20
overseas and in Iraq to vote via Internet absentee ballots might  cause=20
them to be subject to identity theft.   YEAH RIGHT.  He also said they=20
should get a flu shot when voting in the DOD's Internet voting for=20 military.

Gary


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/V/VOTING_MILITARY?SITE=3D721=
9&SECTION=3DHOME&TEMPLATE=3DDEFAULT&CTIME=3D2006-11-02-17-51-=
16">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/V/VOTING_MILITARY?SITE=3D7219&am=
p;SECTION=3DHOME&TEMPLATE=3DDEFAULT&CTIME=3D2006-11-02-17-51-16=20
    

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