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In 2005 the stem cell reseach by the NIH was $607 million. 607 mil vs 0 =
for research? hmmmm
There are always going to be setbacks in research.=20
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061023.wxparkinsons2=
3/BNStory/Science/home
None of the cells growing out of control were cancerous tumours. But as =
Dr. Goldman pointed out, "In the brain, nothing's benign."
The work, published today in the journal of Nature Medicine, is a =
sobering setback for plans to use stem cells from human embryos to grow =
tissues for human transplant.
"My hopes are still high, but I think this injects real caution,"
said = Dr. Goldman, who spent four years on the experiment and a 23-year
career = building up to it. "Some folks are portraying this as
imminently useful = and it's not. There's still a lot that has to be sorted
out."
..
Dr. Bhatia also raised the possibility that the years-old and scant stem =
lines available to government researchers in the United States may also =
have had tumourigenic properties from the start that skewed the =
experiment.
Dr. Goldman and his team are now redoing the experiment on the basis = that
neural cells other than dopamine-cells in the transplanted tissue = led to
the tumour growth.
--------------------------------
Adult stem cells are a cancer threat also
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4465717.stm
Adult stem cells can pose a cancer risk, warn scientists.
"Gary Britt" wrote in message =
news:454a46a1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Even the neocons support stem cell research and growing of organs from =
stem cells. Perhaps you are confusing stem cell research with embryonic =
stem cell research that so far has produced nothing but brain tumors. = No
organs, no nothing. Just tumors. And neocons aren't even against =
embryonic stem cell research, if its funded by sources other than their =
tax dollars to the Feds.
Gary
Rich Gauszka wrote:=20
Not all Gary -I making reference to the lunatic fringe of =
Republicans and conservatives aka neocons. In there you will find the =
group that opposes the cloning of human organs for transplants ( even if =
the organ is grown in an animal other than a human ).
"Gary Britt" wrote in message =
news:454a35fc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Republicans and conservatives support stem cell research Rich. =
Where do you get this stuff from.
Gary
Rich Gauszka wrote:=20
Ah - But Britain with their stem cell research will have a plethora of=20
artificial livers by then. All the neocons from the US will flock to =
Britain=20
for new organs while still denouncing stem cell research/cloning as = evil.
"Mark" wrote in message =
news:454967bb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
"* Shoppers being scanned as they enter stores. This will be matched =
with=20
loyalty card data to affect how they are handled, with big spenders = given=20
preferential treatment over others."
I'm surprised they didn't mention the natural corollary to that, the=20
matching of how many pub trips, now that you have to provide prints to=20
have a pint, to determine where you fall on the liver transplant list, =
if=20
they let you on it at all...
"Rich Gauszka" wrote in message=20
news:454965db$1{at}w3.nls.net...
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1948209.ece
Britain has sleepwalked into becoming a surveillance society that=20
increasingly intrudes into our private lives and impacts on everyday=20
activities, the head of the information watchdog warns.
New technology and "invisible" techniques are being used to
gather a=20 growing amount of information about UK citizens. The level
of=20 surveillance will grow even further in the next 10 years, which
could=20 result in a growing number of people being discriminated against
and=20 excluded from society, says a report by the Information
Commissioner,=20 Richard Thomas.
...
Mr Thomas,who heads an independent body that promotes public access to=20
official information, calls for a debate on what level of surveillance =
is=20
acceptable.
He said: "Two years ago I warned that we were in danger of
sleepwalking=20 into a surveillance society. Today I fear that we are in
fact waking up=20 to a surveillance society that is already all around us.
...
Britain under surveillance
* The national DNA database holds profiles on about 3.5 million people.
* There are an estimated 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain: one for=20
every 14 people.
* More than half of the UK population posseses a loyalty card issued by=20
the firm that operates the Nectar scheme.
* Since 2002 there have been more than 8 million criminal records checks =
for jobs, of which around 400,000 contained convictions or police=20
intelligence information.
* There are plans to expand capacity to read vehicle number plates from=20
35 million reads per day to 50 million by 2008.
* Some 216 catalogue companies in the UK are signed up to the Abacus=20
data-sharing consortium, with information on 26 million individuals.
* The database of fingerprints contains nearly 6 million sets of prints.
* An individual can be captured on more than 300 cameras each day.
* By the end of 2002 law enforcement bodies had made more than 400,000=20
requests for data from mobile network operators.
* The number of motorists caught by speed cameras rose from 300,000 in=20
1996 to over 2 million in 2004.
* In the year to April 2005 some 631 adults and 5,751 juveniles were=20
electronically tagged.
=20
=20
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In 2005 the=20
stem cell reseach by the NIH was $607 million. 607 mil vs 0 for =
research?=20
hmmmm
There are always going to be setbacks =
in research.=20
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061023.wxpar=
kinsons23/BNStory/Science/home">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/st=
ory/RTGAM.20061023.wxparkinsons23/BNStory/Science/home
None of the cells growing out of control were cancerous tumours. =
But as Dr.=20
Goldman pointed out, "In the brain, nothing's benign."
The work, published today in the journal of Nature Medicine, is a =
sobering=20
setback for plans to use stem cells from human embryos to grow tissues = for human=20
transplant.
"My hopes are still high, but I think this injects real
caution," =
said Dr.=20
Goldman, who spent four years on the experiment and a 23-year career = building up=20
to it. "Some folks are portraying this as imminently useful and it's = not.=20
There's still a lot that has to be sorted out."
..
Dr. Bhatia also raised the possibility that the years-old and scant =
stem=20
lines available to government researchers in the United States may also = have had=20
tumourigenic properties from the start that skewed the experiment.
Dr. Goldman and his team are now redoing the experiment on the basis =
that=20
neural cells other than dopamine-cells in the transplanted tissue led to = the=20
tumour growth.
--------------------------------
Adult stem cells are a cancer threat=20
also
http://news.bbc.co" target="new">http://news.bbc.co=">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4465717.stm">http://news.bbc.co=
.uk/1/hi/health/4465717.stm
Adult stem cells can pose a
cancer risk, =
warn=20
scientists.
"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=
>=20
wrote in message news:454a46a1$1{at}w3.nls.net...Even=20
the neocons support stem cell research and growing of organs from stem =
cells. Perhaps you are confusing stem cell research with =
embryonic stem=20
cell research that so far has produced nothing but brain tumors. =
No=20
organs, no nothing. Just tumors. And neocons aren't even =
against=20
embryonic stem cell research, if its funded by sources other than =
their tax=20
dollars to the
Feds.GaryRich Gauszka
wrote:=20
Not all Gary -I making
reference to =
the=20
lunatic fringe of Republicans and conservatives aka =
neocons. In=20
there you will find the group that opposes the cloning of human =
organs for=20
transplants ( even if the organ is grown in an animal other than a =
human=20
).
"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=
>=20
wrote in message news:454a35fc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Republicans=20
and conservatives support stem cell research Rich. Where do =
you get=20
this stuff
from.GaryRich Gauszka
wrote:=20
Ah - But Britain with their stem cell research will
have a = plethora of=20
artificial livers by then. All the neocons from the US will flock to = Britain=20
for new organs while still denouncing stem cell research/cloning as = evil.
"Mark" <nomail{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:nomail{at}hotmail.com"><nomail{at}hotmail.com>
wrote = in message news:454967bb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
"* Shoppers being =
scanned as they enter stores. This will be matched with=20 loyalty card
data to affect how they are handled, with big spenders = given=20
preferential treatment over others."
I'm surprised they didn't mention the natural corollary to that, the=20
matching of how many pub trips, now that you have to provide prints to=20
have a pint, to determine where you fall on the liver transplant list, =
if=20
they let you on it at all...
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com"><gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
= wrote in message=20
news:454965db$1{at}w3.nls.net...
http:/" target="new">http:/=">http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1948209.ece">http:/=
/news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1948209.ece
Britain has sleepwalked into becoming a surveillance society that=20
increasingly intrudes into our private lives and impacts on everyday=20
activities, the head of the information watchdog warns.
New technology and "invisible" techniques are being used to
gather a=20 growing amount of information about UK citizens. The level
of=20 surveillance will grow even further in the next 10 years, which
could=20 result in a growing number of people being discriminated against
and=20 excluded from society, says a report by the Information
Commissioner,=20 Richard Thomas.
...
Mr Thomas,who heads an independent body that promotes public access to=20
official information, calls for a debate on what level of surveillance =
is=20
acceptable.
He said: "Two years ago I warned that we were in danger of
sleepwalking=20 into a surveillance society. Today I fear that we are in
fact waking up=20 to a surveillance society that is already all around us.
...
Britain under surveillance
* The national DNA database holds profiles on about 3.5 million people.
* There are an estimated 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain: one for=20
every 14 people.
* More than half of the UK population posseses a loyalty card issued by=20
the firm that operates the Nectar scheme.
* Since 2002 there have been more than 8 million criminal records checks =
for jobs, of which around 400,000 contained convictions or police=20
intelligence information.
* There are plans to expand capacity to read vehicle number plates from=20
35 million reads per day to 50 million by 2008.
* Some 216 catalogue companies in the UK are signed up to the Abacus=20
data-sharing consortium, with information on 26 million individuals.
* The database of fingerprints contains nearly 6 million sets of prints.
* An individual can be captured on more than 300 cameras each day.
* By the end of 2002 law enforcement bodies had made more than 400,000=20
requests for data from mobile network operators.
* The number of motorists caught by speed cameras rose from 300,000 in=20
1996 to over 2 million in 2004.
* In the year to April 2005 some 631 adults and 5,751 juveniles were=20
electronically tagged.
=
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