From: Gary Britt 

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Even the neocons support stem cell research and growing of organs from stem
cells.  Perhaps you are confusing stem cell research with embryonic stem
cell research that so far has produced nothing but brain tumors. No organs,
no nothing.  Just tumors.  And neocons aren't even against embryonic stem
cell research, if its funded by sources other than their tax dollars to the
Feds.

Gary


Rich Gauszka wrote:
> Not all Gary -I making reference to the lunatic fringe of Republicans
> and conservatives aka neocons.  In there you will find the group that
> opposes the cloning of human organs for transplants ( even if the
> organ is grown in an animal other than a human ).
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  > wrote in message
> news:454a35fc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>
>     Republicans and conservatives support stem cell research Rich.
>     Where do you get this stuff from.
>
>     Gary
>
>
>     Rich Gauszka wrote:
>>     Ah - But Britain with their stem cell research will have a plethora of
>>     artificial livers by then. All the neocons from the US will flock to
Britain
>>     for new organs while still denouncing stem cell research/cloning as
evil.
>>
>>
>>     "Mark"  wrote in message
news:454967bb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>>>     "* Shoppers being scanned as they enter stores. This
will be matched
with
>>>     loyalty card data to affect how they are handled, with big spenders
given
>>>     preferential treatment over others."
>>>
>>>     I'm surprised they didn't mention the natural corollary to that, the
>>>     matching of how many pub trips, now that you have to
provide prints to
>>>     have a pint, to determine where you fall on the liver
transplant list,
if
>>>     they let you on it at all...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>>>     news:454965db$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>
>>>>     http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1948209.ece
>>>>
>>>>     Britain has sleepwalked into becoming a surveillance
society that
>>>>     increasingly intrudes into our private lives and
impacts on everyday
>>>>     activities, the head of the information watchdog warns.
>>>>
>>>>     New technology and "invisible" techniques
are being used to gather a
>>>>     growing amount of information about UK citizens. The level of
>>>>     surveillance will grow even further in the next 10
years, which could
>>>>     result in a growing number of people being
discriminated against and
>>>>     excluded from society, says a report by the
Information Commissioner,
>>>>     Richard Thomas.
>>>>
>>>>     ...
>>>>
>>>>     Mr Thomas,who heads an independent body that promotes
public access to
>>>>     official information, calls for a debate on what level
of surveillance
is
>>>>     acceptable.
>>>>
>>>>     He said: "Two years ago I warned that we were in danger of
sleepwalking
>>>>     into a surveillance society. Today I fear that we are
in fact waking
up
>>>>     to a surveillance society that is already all around us.
>>>>
>>>>     ...
>>>>
>>>>     Britain under surveillance
>>>>
>>>>     * The national DNA database holds profiles on about 3.5 million
people.
>>>>
>>>>     * There are an estimated 4.2 million CCTV cameras in
Britain: one for
>>>>     every 14 people.
>>>>
>>>>     * More than half of the UK population posseses a
loyalty card issued
by
>>>>     the firm that operates the Nectar scheme.
>>>>
>>>>     * Since 2002 there have been more than 8 million
criminal records
checks
>>>>     for jobs, of which around 400,000 contained
convictions or police
>>>>     intelligence information.
>>>>
>>>>     * There are plans to expand capacity to read vehicle
number plates
from
>>>>     35 million reads per day to 50 million by 2008.
>>>>
>>>>     * Some 216 catalogue companies in the UK are signed up
to the Abacus
>>>>     data-sharing consortium, with information on 26
million individuals.
>>>>
>>>>     * The database of fingerprints contains nearly 6 million sets of
prints.
>>>>
>>>>     * An individual can be captured on more than 300
cameras each day.
>>>>
>>>>     * By the end of 2002 law enforcement bodies had made
more than 400,000
>>>>     requests for data from mobile network operators.
>>>>
>>>>     * The number of motorists caught by speed cameras rose
from 300,000 in
>>>>     1996 to over 2 million in 2004.
>>>>
>>>>     * In the year to April 2005 some 631 adults and 5,751
juveniles were
>>>>     electronically tagged.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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Even the neocons support stem cell research and growing of organs from stem
cells.  Perhaps you are confusing stem cell research with
embryonic stem cell research that so far has produced nothing but brain
tumors.  No organs, no nothing.  Just tumors. 
And neocons aren't even
against embryonic stem cell research, if its funded by sources other than
their tax dollars to the Feds.

Gary


Rich Gauszka wrote:

  
  
  
  Not all
Gary -I making reference to
the lunatic fringe of Republicans and conservatives aka
neocons.  In there you will find the group that opposes the
cloning of human organs for transplants ( even if the organ is grown in an
animal other than a human ).
   
   
  "Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}g">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM{at}g
encogDOTcom.com>
wrote in message news:454a35fc$1{at}w3.nls.ne
t...
  
 Republicans
and conservatives support stem cell research Rich.  Where do you
get this stuff from.
    
Gary
    
    
Rich Gauszka wrote:
    

      Ah - But Britain with their stem cell
research will have a
plethora of
artificial livers by then. All the neocons from the US will flock to
Britain for new organs while still denouncing stem cell research/cloning as
evil.


"Mark" <no">mailto:nomail{at}hotmail.com"><no
mail{at}hotmail.com> wrote in message news:454967bb$
1{at}w3.nls.net...
  
      
        "* Shoppers being scanned as they
enter stores. This will
be matched with
loyalty card data to affect how they are handled, with big spenders given
preferential treatment over others."

I'm surprised they didn't mention the natural corollary to that, the
matching of how many pub trips, now that you have to provide prints to have
a pint, to determine where you fall on the liver transplant list, if they
let you on it at all...



"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com"><gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
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          http://news.i" target="new">http://news.i">http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1948209.ece">http://news.i
ndependent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1948209.ece

Britain has sleepwalked into becoming a surveillance society that
increasingly intrudes into our private lives and impacts on everyday
activities, the head of the information watchdog warns.

New technology and "invisible" techniques are being used to
gather a growing amount of information about UK citizens. The level of
surveillance will grow even further in the next 10 years, which could
result in a growing number of people being discriminated against and
excluded from society, says a report by the Information Commissioner,
Richard Thomas.

...

Mr Thomas,who heads an independent body that promotes public access to
official information, calls for a debate on what level of surveillance is
acceptable.

He said: "Two years ago I warned that we were in danger of
sleepwalking into a surveillance society. Today I fear that we are in fact
waking up to a surveillance society that is already all around us.

...

Britain under surveillance

* The national DNA database holds profiles on about 3.5 million people.

* There are an estimated 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain: one for
every 14 people.

* More than half of the UK population posseses a loyalty card issued by
the firm that operates the Nectar scheme.

* Since 2002 there have been more than 8 million criminal records checks
for jobs, of which around 400,000 contained convictions or police
intelligence information.

* There are plans to expand capacity to read vehicle number plates from
35 million reads per day to 50 million by 2008.

* Some 216 catalogue companies in the UK are signed up to the Abacus
data-sharing consortium, with information on 26 million individuals.

* The database of fingerprints contains nearly 6 million sets of prints.

* An individual can be captured on more than 300 cameras each day.

* By the end of 2002 law enforcement bodies had made more than 400,000
requests for data from mobile network operators.

* The number of motorists caught by speed cameras rose from 300,000 in
1996 to over 2 million in 2004.

* In the year to April 2005 some 631 adults and 5,751 juveniles were
electronically tagged.


      
        
            
      
      

  
    
    
  





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