From: "Rich Gauszka" 

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Not all Gary -I making reference to the lunatic fringe of Republicans = and
conservatives aka neocons.  In there you will find the group that = opposes
the cloning of human organs for transplants ( even if the organ = is grown
in an animal other than a human ).


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
= news:454a35fc$1{at}w3.nls.net...

  Republicans and conservatives support stem cell research Rich.  Where =
do you get this stuff from.

  Gary


  Rich Gauszka wrote:=20
Ah - But Britain with their stem cell research will have a plethora of=20
artificial livers by then. All the neocons from the US will flock to =
Britain=20
for new organs while still denouncing stem cell research/cloning as = evil.


"Mark"  wrote in message =
news:454967bb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  "* Shoppers being scanned as they enter stores. This will be matched =
with=20
loyalty card data to affect how they are handled, with big spenders = given=20
preferential treatment over others."

I'm surprised they didn't mention the natural corollary to that, the=20
matching of how many pub trips, now that you have to provide prints to=20
have a pint, to determine where you fall on the liver transplant list, =
if=20
they let you on it at all...



"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message=20
news:454965db$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1948209.ece

Britain has sleepwalked into becoming a surveillance society that=20
increasingly intrudes into our private lives and impacts on everyday=20
activities, the head of the information watchdog warns.

New technology and "invisible" techniques are being used to
gather a=20 growing amount of information about UK citizens. The level
of=20 surveillance will grow even further in the next 10 years, which
could=20 result in a growing number of people being discriminated against
and=20 excluded from society, says a report by the Information
Commissioner,=20 Richard Thomas.

..

Mr Thomas,who heads an independent body that promotes public access to=20
official information, calls for a debate on what level of surveillance =
is=20
acceptable.

He said: "Two years ago I warned that we were in danger of
sleepwalking=20 into a surveillance society. Today I fear that we are in
fact waking up=20 to a surveillance society that is already all around us.

..

Britain under surveillance

* The national DNA database holds profiles on about 3.5 million people.

* There are an estimated 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain: one for=20
every 14 people.

* More than half of the UK population posseses a loyalty card issued by=20
the firm that operates the Nectar scheme.

* Since 2002 there have been more than 8 million criminal records checks =

for jobs, of which around 400,000 contained convictions or police=20
intelligence information.

* There are plans to expand capacity to read vehicle number plates from=20
35 million reads per day to 50 million by 2008.

* Some 216 catalogue companies in the UK are signed up to the Abacus=20
data-sharing consortium, with information on 26 million individuals.

* The database of fingerprints contains nearly 6 million sets of prints.

* An individual can be captured on more than 300 cameras each day.

* By the end of 2002 law enforcement bodies had made more than 400,000=20
requests for data from mobile network operators.

* The number of motorists caught by speed cameras rose from 300,000 in=20
1996 to over 2 million in 2004.

* In the year to April 2005 some 631 adults and 5,751 juveniles were=20
electronically tagged.


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Not all Gary -I making
reference to the =

lunatic fringe of Republicans and conservatives aka
neocons.  = In there=20
you will find the group that opposes the cloning of human organs for = transplants=20
( even if the organ is grown in an animal other than a human =
).
 
 
"Gary Britt" <glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=">mailto:glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com">glbNOSPAM{at}gencogDOTcom.com=
>=20
wrote in message news:454a35fc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
Republicans=20
  and conservatives support stem cell research Rich.  Where do you =
get this=20
  stuff from.GaryRich
Gauszka wrote:=20
  
Ah - But Britain with their stem cell research will
have a = plethora of=20
artificial livers by then. All the neocons from the US will flock to = Britain=20
for new organs while still denouncing stem cell research/cloning as = evil.


"Mark" <nomail{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:nomail{at}hotmail.com"><nomail{at}hotmail.com>
wrote = in message news:454967bb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  
    
"* Shoppers being scanned =
as they enter stores. This will be matched with=20 loyalty card data to
affect how they are handled, with big spenders = given=20
preferential treatment over others."

I'm surprised they didn't mention the natural corollary to that, the=20
matching of how many pub trips, now that you have to provide prints to=20
have a pint, to determine where you fall on the liver transplant list, =
if=20
they let you on it at all...



"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com"><gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
= wrote in message=20
news:454965db$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    
      
http:/" target="new">http:/=">http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1948209.ece">http:/=
/news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1948209.ece

Britain has sleepwalked into becoming a surveillance society that=20
increasingly intrudes into our private lives and impacts on everyday=20
activities, the head of the information watchdog warns.

New technology and "invisible" techniques are being used to
gather a=20 growing amount of information about UK citizens. The level
of=20 surveillance will grow even further in the next 10 years, which
could=20 result in a growing number of people being discriminated against
and=20 excluded from society, says a report by the Information
Commissioner,=20 Richard Thomas.

..

Mr Thomas,who heads an independent body that promotes public access to=20
official information, calls for a debate on what level of surveillance =
is=20
acceptable.

He said: "Two years ago I warned that we were in danger of
sleepwalking=20 into a surveillance society. Today I fear that we are in
fact waking up=20 to a surveillance society that is already all around us.

..

Britain under surveillance

* The national DNA database holds profiles on about 3.5 million people.

* There are an estimated 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain: one for=20
every 14 people.

* More than half of the UK population posseses a loyalty card issued by=20
the firm that operates the Nectar scheme.

* Since 2002 there have been more than 8 million criminal records checks =

for jobs, of which around 400,000 contained convictions or police=20
intelligence information.

* There are plans to expand capacity to read vehicle number plates from=20
35 million reads per day to 50 million by 2008.

* Some 216 catalogue companies in the UK are signed up to the Abacus=20
data-sharing consortium, with information on 26 million individuals.

* The database of fingerprints contains nearly 6 million sets of prints.

* An individual can be captured on more than 300 cameras each day.

* By the end of 2002 law enforcement bodies had made more than 400,000=20
requests for data from mobile network operators.

* The number of motorists caught by speed cameras rose from 300,000 in=20
1996 to over 2 million in 2004.

* In the year to April 2005 some 631 adults and 5,751 juveniles were=20
electronically tagged.


         

 


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