From: "Mark" 


"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
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> "George Sherwood"  wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:35:33 -0600, John Cuccia wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:47:09 +0400, "George Sherwood"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>But then again John Kerry agrees with you.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_4578034
>>>>
>>>>"Kerry then told the students that if they were able
to navigate the
>>>>education system, they could get comfortable jobs -
"If you don't, you
>>>>get
>>>>stuck in Iraq," he said to a mixture of laughter and
gasps."
>>>>
>>>>Nice move Senator Kerry, insult the troops fighting overseas.  Glad I
>>>>never had to call that guy Commander-in-Chief.
>>>
>>> That isn't insulting the troops, it is insulting the strategists that
>>> got those the troops stuck in Iraq.
>>
>> BS.  Don't get an education in get stuck in Iraq, has nothing to do with
>> the policy.  He is talking about the soldiers, you can spin like Kerry is
>> doing, but it is insulting.
>>
>> George
>
> Kerry did come across badly. From the reports the Democratic party is more
> pissed at Kerry than the response from the Bush Administration to Kerry's
> comments. To me it looked like Kerry thought he was on a roll with the one
> liners and entered the foot-in-mouth zone with the education/Iraq one.

I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt of an innocent
foot-in-mouth defense, if he hadn't had the same attitude about the
military 35 years ago (to me it's amazing that he could be elected to
anything after that, let alone almost, phew!, make POTUS). I still think it
obvious that he stumbled over his words, but I think it's a result of his
real personna coming through accidentally, not some joke gone awry -- why
is he joking about the war anyway?


> BTW Rumsfeld look surprised today when the reporters asked him about Prime
> Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered the US checkpoints removed < waiting to
> see the spin on that one >

I'm not surprised that Rumsfeld wouldn't be aware of every single action on
the ground in Iraq, why would he? I guess the opposite spin now, will be
that there's "light between our positions" and all is lost in
Iraq because Maliki is taking responsibility and actions that Rumsfeld
doesn't know about. OTOH, had he, Maliki, not taken responsibility and
action, he'd be castigated as a puppet of ours. No win, no need to argue


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