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to: John Beamish
from: Robert Comer
date: 2007-05-24 19:04:12
subject: Re: Bush Justice preferred hirings

From: Robert Comer 

>No state structure?  They certainly had a governing group (the head honcho
>was called the Chief -- hey!

That's tribal, several rungs down from state.

fwiw, some American Indians really did approach state level, but they were
probably more related with central american indians.  (my guess, I haven't
read that.  I'm thinking of the cliff dwellers of NM for one example.

--
Bob Comer


On Thu, 24 May 2007 21:12:03 -0400, "John Beamish"
 wrote:

>No state structure?  They certainly had a governing group (the head honcho
>was called the Chief -- hey!  there's this neat song called "Hail to the
>Chief", you may have heard it occasionally ); they had defined
>territories; they had battles when one group crossed into another's
>territory; different groups had different languages and social customs.
>
>On Thu, 24 May 2007 09:13:27 -0400, Robert Comer
> wrote:
>
>>> Oh I see you're complaining that the Native Americans didn't have the
>>> ability to enforce immigration controls on european illegal immigrants.
>>
>> They had the right, but not the power.  Remember that they were mostly
>> hunter gathers, no state structure to speak of, Europeans took over,
>> simple as that. (none of us here had anything to do with that...)
>>
>> Just because Europeans took over originally doesn't mean we have the
>> right to resist invaders to you does it???
>>

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