Hi Rob,

Rob Swindell wrote to Michiel Broek:

RS>  > The one from a week to two weeks ago? Not a very recent one.
RS> 
RS> From a few days ago. It must have gotten lost (?). Here's a re-post:

Indeed, this one I haven't seen.

RS> 
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RS>  > Hi Rob,
RS>  >
RS>  > I got some things figured out. Your bbs puts the telnet connection in 
RS> binary
RS>  > mode. My bbs runs from inetd and doesn't put the telnet connection into
RS>  > binary mode.
RS> 
RS> Ah, that's a good clue. Synchronet puts both the send and receive channels 

RS> into
RS> binary mode before a file transfer (and restores them after).
RS> 
RS> And indeed, most Telnet clients will do the same.
RS> 
RS>  > Some terminal programs put the telnet connection in binary mode, but
RS>  > syncterm does not.
RS> 
RS> Yes, an oversight on Stephen and mine's part. Since we mostly test with
RS> Synchronet BBSes, it hasn't been an issue.

I can imagine that.

RS>  > I experimented with minicom over modemu, and with some switches you can 

RS> put
RS>  > modemeu to force the telnet connection into binary mode or not. If I 
RS> don't
RS>  > set modemu binary then I get the same problems as syncterm has.
RS>  >
RS>  > I tried to put the connection into binary mode but that doesn't work 
RS> because
RS>  > in.telnetd sits between mbsebbs and the internet.
RS>  >
RS>  > My guess is that if syncterm sets binary mode most or all problems will 

RS> be
RS>  > fixed. Could you give me some ideas where I best could make the changes 

RS> in
RS>  > the syncterm source to try this?
RS> 
RS> I went ahead and made those changes, so if you cvs update and rebuild (or 
RS> get
RS> an updated binary from syncterm.bbsdev.net in a few days), you should be 
RS> able
RS> to test it out. If you have telnet command logging enabled, you should see 

RS> them
RS> in the SyncTerm log file output as well.
RS> 
RS>  > If that works then the next plan could be that I write my own telnetd, 
RS> or
RS>  > use some other way to answer the telnet connections.
RS> 
RS> That may not be necessary if all Telnet clients (or at least the ones you 
RS> plan
RS> to be compatible with) request binary mode (for both transmit and 
RS> receive).

Most that are being used now do, so there is no rush for me anymore.

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RS> 
RS>  > RS>  > I also found that it doesn't harm that both the
server and the 
RS> client
RS>  > RS> put
RS>  > RS>  > the connection into binary mode.
RS>  > RS>
RS>  > RS> That's correct. And for clarification a Telnet
connection can have 
RS> binar
RS>  > RS> mode
RS>  > RS> enabled in either (or both) directions.
RS>  > 
RS>  > I think both directions must be set, but I mean setting it twice 
RS> (server and
RS>  > client side) doesn't harm.
RS> 
RS> Yup, gotcha. Let me know how the SyncTerm update works for ya.

Perfect, and on the lan very fast transfers.

RS>  > I think both directions must be set, but I mean setting it twice 

    Greetings, Michiel Broek

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