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to: MIKE ANGWIN
from: JEAN HALVERSON
date: 1998-02-20 15:06:00
subject: Re: California and Hispanics

 -=> Quoting Mike Angwin to Joanne Johnson <=-
 JJ>Illegals lie a lot.  They know they can get away with it.
  
 MA> A man is declared illegal by virtue of his very existance,
 MA> hunted like an animal, subject to immediate arrest and deportation
 MA> without trial, without contacting his family, and without recovering
 MA> his personal belongings, he is denied a diver's license, he is
 MA> prohibited from earning a living legally, he is subjected to
 MA> unimaginable bias and scorn...
 MA> I am remined of those who aided escaping slaves along the
 MA> underground railroad talking to those given the task of returning them
 MA> to their owners.  I can well imagine such words being said.
 
 JJ>We are the *safety valve* for all over populated countries in the
 JJ>world.  :-(
  
 MA> Actually many of the immigrants comming to the Untied States are
 MA> comming from nations, such as Honduras, with a lower population
 MA> density than our own.  Over population is not the prime motive.  The
 MA> prime motive is to find work and to build a life for oneself and one's
 MA> family.  There are many situations where employment in those nations
 MA> simply is not available and bright young men and women witht he same
 MA> dreams of a future you and I have flee their homelands in search of
 MA> those dreams.
 MA> We have allowed ourselves to become transfixed on immigration as
 MA> a problem when, in fact, it is really an ecconomic boom to this
 MA> nation. Social liberals have convinced many of us that their vast
 MA> social programs are being abused by immigrants and that if we spend
 MA> billions of dollars sealing our borders their idealistic programs will
 MA> suddenly become functional.  This is untrue.  These programs are flawed
 MA> at their foundations and no matter what we spend, nomatter how many of
 MA> our traditional values we turn our backs on, these programs are
 MA> di\oomed to perpetual failure.
 MA> Rather than spending billions of dollars in a hopeless attempt
 MA> to preserve the integrity of these programs by the militarization of
 MA> south Texas and other areas of the frontier, we should be
 MA> concentrating our efforts on dismanteling the programs themselves. 
 MA> Then, those that come, can come, work, and contribute to building a
 MA> stronger and healthier nation.  We can give others opportunities that
 MA> our immigrant ancestors enjoyed, preserve our tradition of being an
 MA> island of liberty in a sea of servitude, and all be much better off all
 MA> at the same time for less money and with less government. 
 MA> 
 MA> Mike Angwin
 I have always felt that immigration quotas were racist in their origins.
 Am I correct in assuming that you feel the same? It's funny, everyone
 complains about illegal aliens and automatically  refers to hispanics.
 What about all the illegal  Canadians and Europeans whose visas have
 expired? Where is the _outrage _ about that? I'm reminded of my grandmother
 who complains to no end about those illegal hispanics yet one of her best
 friends was an illegal Canadian for several years. 
     There should be a sense of pride in opening our golden door to others
 less fortunate than we are. After all, _most_ of us would not be here if
 it weren't for immigration. 
     Your assessment of the social liberals plight concerning their precious
 programs has been my own opinion for years.
 Jean Halverson
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