Salutatio Keith!
16-Feb-98, Keith Knapp wrote to Richard Meic
          Subject: Time and Again
 KK>> If we assume the big bang model and wind the clock back to its
 KK>> earliest moments, we see that at some point pressures and
 KK>> temperatures were so great that atoms could not form; at an
 KK>> earlier point protons and electrons could not form, etc.  If
 KK>> matter as it now exists could not exist, then time as we know it
 KK>> could not exist. We could call this "the beginning of time", but
 KK>> at some point we would be getting into the tangles created by
 KK>> human concepts of 'cause' and 'first cause' and such.
 KK> RM>What was the cosmic singularity inside of?
 KK> Relativity showed that space and time are not absolutes existing
 KK> independently of matter; rather, space and time are properties of
 KK> matter.
Is relativity (mathematics) all that there is for support in this?
 KK> If we apply this to the BB model, then the BB did not expand into
 KK> a pre-existing space and time; rather, space and time appeared
 KK> along with matter as we know it.  That's a truly weird concept to
 KK> try and wrap your mind around, but relativity has been right about
 KK> so many other things that it's very likely right about that too.
Do not forget the failing of relativity in predicting the orbits of
super-massive binary stars (eg. Di-Herculis).  I forget the astronomer's
name, but this guy spent nearly his entire career trying to solve the
problem and save relativity at such massive scales.  Now, if relativity
fails with Di-Herculis which is very much less massive then a Big Bang
singularity, relativity is quite unreliable at the BB singularity.
Remember that any BB cosmology totally fails to make ANY sense at the
singularity, because all laws of physics do not apply.  As I mentioned
to others here before, they are working from an unproven assumption that
there was a BB singularity.  There is no way to PROVE that there ever was
such a singularity.
Besides, you did not answer the question, "What was the cosmic singularity
inside of?".  ;)
 Dicere...
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Richard Meic
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