-=> ROY J. TELLASON wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 RJT> Wayne Chirnside wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

 > Here it is,  the anniversary of 9/11,  and I really don't have a
 > whole lot to say about it.

 > Except that I'm *really* getting tired of hearing the talking
 > heads raise the issue of "how much safer the country is" over and
 > over and over...

 WC> The country is likely at far greater risk.

 RJT> I think I would rather tend to agree with you on this.

Do you think any of the tens of billions of dollars 
for Homeland Security and civil liberties intrusions
will actually make any difference? I don't

We've got a war on drugs too and some senior DEA people
I've heard admit we maybe intercept 15 percent of the drugs.
We've had decades and billions, law enforcement 
out the wazoo, AWAC's in the air and everything else
and still they come.

Some clown just shipped himself across country in the cargo 
hold of a commercial airliner!  That's airline security for you.
 
 WC> Look towards Israel as an example. Though Israel has secured their
 WC> airlines and we should emulate them there are plenty of targets of
 WC> opportunity here and locally available materials with which to
 WC> cause destruction and terror.

 RJT> Sure.

Anyone that can brew beer can ferment anthrax, are we doing
well if we intercept 15 percent of that like we do with drugs?

Speaking of anthrax when that first happened the news was
on about it and how terrorists hadn't yet found out how
to weaponize it.
Well using keywords on the evening news I plugged them into google
and what pops right up but a paper on just how to accomplish this
in detail from no less than Lawrence Livermore Labs :-(
Gave me the warm fuzzies :-(

 WC> We've recruited for Al-Qaeda, they weren't in Saddam controlled
 WC> Iraq before but they are now :-(

 RJT> I just heard some mention on the news this evening about them going to
 RJT> talk about who's crossing the border _into_ Iraq to do all this stuff
 RJT> that's being done to our guys over there.  
 
 RJT> Maybe border control should be a little bit higher priority?

 Over there, good luck. Logistical nightmare.
 You'd need to spread the troops so thin you'd just make better
 targets out of them.
 I've heard the General types explain the logistics, it ain't good.

 Heck one of the prime hideouts we've never even dared venture into
 is a no-man's land on the border of our good friend Pakistan.
 It's known for it's warlords and a thriving black market
 trade in arms and munitions.

 WC> Al - Qaeda's making a comeback in Afganistan too.

 RJT> Heard that last night too.

 The Taliban as well.

 WC> Terrorists are crossing the borders of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan,
 WC> Syria other nations entering Iraq to wage war against the
 WC> occupation forces.

 RJT> Just so.

 WC> And the last poll I saw _still_ showed 69 percent of American's
 WC> think  Iraq was involved in the 9-11 attacks despite the fact
 WC> there's absolutely no evidence for it. Now Saudi Arabia is another
 WC> matter...

 RJT> Yep!

 WC> Someone in another echo pointed out Saudi Arabia was linked to
 WC> 9-11, their oil infrastructure is intact unlike Iraq's so
 WC> U.S. dollars need not hemmorage into a lost cause should we
 WC> have attacked the Saudis.

 WC> Perhaps George got the wrong country?
 WC> Perhaps Bush family ties to Saudi oil influenced George's
 WC> choices too?

 RJT> One wonders what factors went into all of the decisions...

From my POV years of heavy alcohol abuse leading to wet brain syndrome
and a desire to enrich the elite few at the expense of 
the vast majority.

Now George W. is on about his overtime wage cutting bill
which will deprive a whole lot of workers of a living wage.

I worked at a company where I made a huge amount of money 
in overtime for five years.
In that time they experimented with a second shift printer
and every time it winded up costing them far more
in printing plate costs, machine downtime, parts costs,
quality control and machine shop costs to maintain the printers
rose dramatically.

During one of these experiments they almost lost the Walmart
account which was a *very* substantial part of their
sales. 

Seems Walmart is rather picky about the universal
product bar codes on products they purchase actually 
scanning at checkout.

I got them that Walmart account  and after they send some twenty
tractor trailer loads of product their way every couple days
I begin to suspect my overtime costs were not hurting
the company too badly.

BTW I later cut my overtime when I realized it was 
putting me into a higher tax bracket and most of the extra
money I'd been making just went for more taxes out of my check.

On his own I don't believe George W. Bush capable of keeping 
a Burger King in the black for a year let alone
keep his oath of office to protect the principles 
of the U.S. Constitution.

I've got to stop watching the news it's really
beginning to anger me.
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