From: Gene McAloon 

On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 17:38:58 -0400, "Geo."  wrote:

>"Gene McAloon"  wrote in message
>news:u9k2c0pcc1qh4a5eo5jcrbuftuvsc68pj9{at}4ax.com...
>
>> >The tactics used were CIA all the way Gene. The CIA even referred to the
>army
>> >people at the prison as hillbilly and from the pictures and
what I've heard
>of
>> >interviews with them that's far too accurate a description to be
>cooincidence.
>>
>> You misunderstood that reference. One of the reasons the CIA withdrew its
>people
>> from the prison was becasue it feard what a bunch of hillbilly guards would
>do
>> if allowed to use warming up techniques.
>
>Yessssss, but WHEN did they withdraw and who started the torture program? You
>want to place blame, you need to know how this situation arose. I find it
>difficult to believe that initially the hillbilly guards decided to just start
>using these torture tactics on their own to get information from the
prisoners.
>Obviously the CIA was involved here from the start, so the question is did
they
>bail because news had begun to leak out and investigations had been initiated?
>That would be pretty typical of how they work, no?

I have already mentioned when they withdrew as mentioned in the media reports.
>
>> >Except for the wing where all the torture took place.
>>
>> Wrong again, Geo. It was an Army prison, the Army ran it. The paticular
wings
>> you are referring to were run by the Army Intelligence people, in contrast
to
>> the rest of the prison run by MPs.
>
>That's not what's coming out, what's coming out is that there were people
other
>than the army involved, I believe they are called
"contractors" this time..

Yes, that is correct, there were contractors involved. But they were not
CIA obviously.

>> The resigning for family reasons is the usual excuse used when people are
>forced
>> out.
>
>Ok good, at least you see that part. Now try to explain the timing. He's
>already weathered the issues you suggested were the reasons, that's not why
>this is happening now. Maybe contributing factors but something current has
>forced his resignation now.

The only current thing is the Senate Intelligence Committee's report, some
of which has already been leaked. That report, plus the report of the
appointed independent committee, is extremely critical of the CIA. The
administration badly needs a fall guy and Tenet is the most likely one and
most willing, no doubt. This is not the first time he has fallen on his
sword at Bush's bidding. Getting rid of him tends, they hope, to defuse
some of the criticisms in the reports as they become public.
>
>Geo.
>

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