TIP: Click on subject to list as thread! ANSI
echo: r_catholic
to: All
from: Vern Humphrey
date: 2003-05-17 17:25:36
subject: RE: [R_Catholic-L] Speak or Not Speak?

To: 
From: "Vern Humphrey" 
Reply-To: r_catholic-l{at}yahoogroups.com

To: seanmbrook{at}aol.com [mailto:seanmbrook{at}aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 10:25 PM
> > > >
> > SMB> Because we have been commanded by Christ to bear
> > > witness to the truth.  Are [we] supposed to remain always
> > > silent in the face of manifest error?
> >
> > VH> We are NOT commanded to fail.  We are not commanded to
> adopt tactics
> > that
> > haven't worked in the past.
> > >
>  What "tactics" are you saying I am using?  But see
>  below!

Note your words, "Manifest error."  That is a term that implies
patronizing the opposition.
>
>  And we can't even TRY without also accepting the
>  chance of failure.

But we can minimize the chance of failure by the appropriate tactics.

We are not Savonarolas, we are Saint Francis of Assissi.
> >
> > VH> And many more might be driven away, who might have been
> converted by
> > using a
> > different approach.
> > >
>  And I think my "approach" is better than what I have
>  seen too many other non Muslims do in the chat
>  rooms.  I do not indulge in vulgar insults, obscenities,
>  accusations that all Muslims are killers, or drool over
>  Mohammed's sexual proclivities, etc.

They have set a very low standard.  That doesn't mean we have to use it as
our benchmark. :-)
>
>  I have tried to be always civil when discussing or
>  debating with Muslims.  It is possible to be tough
>  without being nasty.  And some have said things
>  like, "Sean disagrees with us, but he is not disres-
>  pectful."

As long as they say that, you can't be wrong.
>
> > > I certainly don't expect converts right away!  But
> > > I'm trying to scatter seed which might bear fruit.
> > >
> > VH> Seed best bears fruit when the sower sets an example of
> what a Christian
> > ought to be.
> >
>  Correct.  And I don't expect to always succeed.
>
That, also, is a Christian attitude.
>


------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->
Where Catholic Singles Go Online - StRaphael.net is the world's #1 website
for single Catholics. If you are looking for friendship, marriage or even a
religious vocation, StRaphael.cnet is the place to be. Join Today Free!
www.StRaphael.net
http://us.click.yahoo.com/r_NezC/1M1FAA/EDtLAA/28VolB/TM
---------------------------------------------------------------------~->

Visit R_Catholic-L member homepages at: http://home.cox.rr.com/rraphael
http://rcatholic-l.freeservers.com
http://hometown.aol.com/philvaz
http://www.lisaslighthouse.org
http://members.aol.com/SisterNeri/


Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-4
* Origin: Email Gate (1:379/100)
SEEN-BY: 633/267 270
@PATH: 379/100 101 1 106/1 2000 633/267

SOURCE: echomail via fidonet.ozzmosis.com

Email questions or comments to sysop@ipingthereforeiam.com
All parts of this website painstakingly hand-crafted in the U.S.A.!
IPTIA BBS/MUD/Terminal/Game Server List, © 2025 IPTIA Consulting™.