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to: Gene McAloon
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2004-06-08 00:07:32
subject: Re: It goes right to the top

From: Adam Flinton 

Gene McAloon wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:50:41 +0100, Adam Flinton 
> wrote:
>
>
>>Gene McAloon wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:20:11 +0100, Adam Flinton

>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>This sophistry gets better & better. "physical
stress" etc & now...
>>>>"intense interrogation techniques"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There are single words which describe all this....rather
than resorting
>>>>to a whole phrase...
>>>>
>>>>At least we now know Saddam didn't have any "torture
chambers" oh no..
>>>>he had "intense interrogation technique chambers".
>>>
>>>
>>>You are blowing wind as usual. Naturally you would prefer the
word "torture"
to
>>>any other. But in fact not all the thing done, although forbidden by the
Geneva
>>>Conventions, can be called that. I know that must be
disappointing to you,
but
>>>that is the reality.
>>
>>Bollox. Beating someone to death with the aim of extracting information
>>is torture. A number of the various techniques already detailed e.g
>>waterboarding is torture It is unsurprizing that you are willing to try
>>to excuse American use of torture coz heck Stalin found it usefull so it
>>must be OK.
>
>
> The bullshit is entirely yours, as always with you.

Hardly.

> I was talking about what was
> depicted in the photos, all of which is contrary to the Geneva Conventions,
but
> does not come under the rubric of torture.

Nope but beating people to death does & that is part of what's been
going on in US run detention facilities.

> And what the hell has Stalin got to
> do with this? I thought your dumb line was that the US is going fascist, not
> communist.
>

Again Gene you're showing your confusion. (A) Phil is the one going on
about the US turning fascist & (B) The Stalin point was directed to you
personally & not the US as a whole.


> You know, when I first came across your posts in Canopus, I commented that
you
> just had to be a teenager. But no, I was assured that you were an adult. I
still
> doubt that. You show no signs of maturity that I can discern. In fact, you
sound
> as clueless as some of the US far-right types. You and they would make a good
> match if your anti-Americanism didn't stand in the way.
>

So speaks the anti-british bigoted ignoramus we all know. Crikey Gene if I
din't realise the sheer scale of your lack of knowledge & blind bigotry
I might take your views seriously.

I'm sure that teenage years are many many decades behind you & that it
is senility which is causing your manifest confusions about the world &
indeed reality in general. There is a difference between signs of maturity
& the signs of senilty which you demonstrate time after time. So stop
dribbling, drink your medicine & keep congratulating yourself on having
reached the 21'st century even if you choose not to live in it.

Adam

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