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from: Vern Humphrey
date: 2003-06-08 22:57:58
subject: RE: [R_Catholic-L] Baptism for the dead again?

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From: "Vern Humphrey" 
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> > 7. A few days after, while we were all praying, suddenly in the
> midst of the
> > prayer I uttered a word and named Dinocrates; and I was amazed
> because he
> > had
> > never come into my mind save then; and I sorrowed, remembering
> his fate. And
> > straightway I knew that I was worthy, and that I ought to ask
> for him. And I
> > began to pray for him long, and to groan unto the Lord.
> Immediately the same
> >
>
>  Very interesting.  But this selection from the Acta
>  of St. Perpetua doesn't have anything to do with
>  baptism for the dead.  Rather, the conclusion I
>  drew was that St. Perpetua was praying for her
>  brother's well being.  In fact, it could be argued
>  that the story of Perpetua and Dinocrates is an
>  early example of belief in what was later called
>  Purgatory.
>
Look at what happened.  Her brother, Dinocretes, was in a bad place.  Those
who go to Purgatory will eventually go to heaven, right?  Do the unbaptized
go to heaven?  Dinocrates died unbaptized!

Perpetua, by her acts while alive, got him OUT of the bad place.

Wherever he was, he was now in a good place -- and Perpetua claims the credit.
>


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