II> >>> Part 2 of 3...
II> RT> can touch, smell, taste, observe, or listen to except their personal
  > RT> accounts.  The "evidence" has vanished. Actually, it wasn't even
  > RT> considered important until some 40 years after the event. No wonder 
its
  > RT> not still around.
II>If it ever existed as described, it is buried in a well-guarded warehouse
  >somewhere.
Maybe, maybe not.  We've gotta determine that something existed before
we can conclude that someone is hiding it.
  >  And, (if it exists), it has been anyalized chemically,
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm glad to see that you are not as convinced as you earlier proclaimed.
II>How about the thousands of witnesses/abductees who do NOT try ot make a
  >profit from their experiences - in fact, do not talk about the experiences
  >with strangers for fear of being branded as "crazy"?  How do you explain
  >these people... the ones that AREN'T written up in books and elsewhere?
I don't try to explain them even though I do have some personal
opinions.. opinions that would probably offend you .   As you have
noted, my problem is not with ones who report having these experiences,
its the ones that assume the authority to _interpret_ them.
II>Tabloids are about as reliable as "Alice In Wonderland" and other
  >children's stories for getting facts!
There are no authoritative reports that support the ET conclusion.
II>In other words, you would suspect that she had been drinking, sniffing,
  >shooting up, dreaming or hallucinating if she told you that she had seen
  >one or more non-human humanoids, and gave the classic description of a
  >Gray, right?  Oh dear, mommy dear, what were YOU into last night?   ;-}
Drinking? Sniffing? Shooting up?  If you only knew my mom...:)... no
that would never cross my mind.  Dreaming or hallucinating would occur
to me.
II>As an ex-policeman, you were trained to look for - and accept - only
  >factual evidence.  You want concrete evidence when possible, (as you
  >are asking for for UFO's/ET's), but sometimes concrete evidence is not
  >available, and you have to accept circumstancial evidence.  How many
  >people have been convicted - rightly or wrongly - on nothing more than
  >circumstancial evidence?
None that I know of, especially when the circumstances cannot be
connected to a factual event.  At any rate, you and many others are
confusing circumstantial evidence with hearsay.  Circumstantial evidence
is certainly valid and usable under the right conditions.  Hearsay, what
most of the UFO "evidence" consists of, is NEVER valid.
  > But just because such evidence CAN be
  >faked, and in fact HAS been faked many times, is that any reason to brand
  >_ALL_ such pictures as hoaxes?  Au contrare!  Look at them with suspicion,
  >but do not catagorically put the [FAKE] stamp on them!  If you cannot
  >PROVE that they are faked, then you must consider that they COULD be
  >genuine.
Agreed.  Until they are validated true or false, they must remain in
the _potential_ evidence pool, but until they are validated true, they
cannot be considered in the conclusion.  How many items of alien origin
are you aware of that has been validated true?
  > RT> newspaper, or any other public access medium. They wouldn't
  > RT> necessarily have to show clips of the UFO on the White House lawn...
  > RT> just tell me its true.
II>OH, so you would accept ANY statement from a Govt......
You are putting words in my keyboard :)...  I said I'd accept the basic
premise of an official proclamation that ET existed.  Do you know of any
event in history of similar magnitude that our government has
categorically denied?
  >to lie through their teeth about such things?  Lessee here, what DID
  >happen at Roswell in 1947?
The government has admitted that it lied about Roswell.  I'm of the
belief that they STILL haven't come clean.  That suggests that they
indeed KNOW what happened there, not that they know an alien landed.
  >dummies, testing high-altitude parachute jumps or some such... and every
  >single one of these stories was supposedly "The REAL FACTS" of what
  >happened!  Come on, they can't ALL be true for cripes sake!
Ok... they are lying!!!  How does that suggest that ET is the truth?
  >....?  Gimme a break, fellas!
You won't believe ANY story but the alien one.  IF it isn't true, there
is no point in the government telling the truth...  you wouldn't believe
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