++> Inspired by Sue Michaud comments on evolution
 
 SM> .......The so called intellectual evolutionists are so insecure
 SM> they feel they are the only ones who should be heard and they are
 SM> so afraid of the "theory of creationism".  It doesn't surprise me
 SM> though because most evolutionists are socialists and we all know
 SM> the they both fear competition.
 
     I didn't think I would hear **SUCH** from you. Intellectual
 evolutionists (or any other kind of evolutionist, including most
 Christians) are not afraid of "creationist theories" and would
 one day accept such views if they could ever become reasonable.
 Many "evolutionists" do accept some creationist functions within
 their own understandings of the developing theory.  The problem
 is not so much one of creationism verses evolution (as they
 probably will both be found to stem from a same base), as it is
 one of, the Judeo-Christian God being made a focus. This "focus"
 is often gently nudged aside into the shadows for convenience of
 point. It is some bit unfair to squeeze your UNKNOWN world of
 (also) thoughtful people into contrived categories, with an ugly
 shove ...................especially with the prefix "so called".
 Also, fear of competition (for good or bad) , can exist in any set
 of human circumstances and thought. Also again!  you fail to note
 that competition in its myriad forms has "KILLED MORE" than any
 other natural meaning in our knowing .....not to mention the "so
 called" Christian dislike of competition on all of its own many
 fronts. Fundamentalist Christian philosophies and free (liberal-ish)
 philosophies are a bit alien to each other, and require some
 mutual-careful understanding efforts, not always easy to arrange.
 There is some room for creationism-evolution negotiation, many
 "so-called*" Christians already seeing no major arguments between
 evolution and their God.
 
     * All the many other Christians outside of that
       minority splinter group usually referred
       to as Fundamentalists.
 
 ++> from a comment to Richard Meic
 
 SM> I see logic.  I see some intelligence here, I see God's hand at
 SM> work.  I suppose we'll never see eye to eye for one, evolution,
 SM> rejects God and the other, creationism accepts God.
 
   Untrue!! Evolutionists may or may not reject God; and Creationists
   may or may not accept God.       I believe you are the victim of
   clever convincing by another and have never thought it through
   yourself.  Though clever argument can force us to take extreme
   positions, truth is never simple unless manufactured to order.
 
  P.S. On a two hour PBS TV E/C debate (William Buckley's "Firing
       Line") Friday night, **ALL** views were brought out.
       Though anecdotal in a world percentage mix, the range of
       views would not indicate the "absolute" comments you have
       indicated.
 
    ..........and YES!,,, I am also guilty in my way...........!
                                             ,, !!
   ...a very narrow view by one who sees... _/o0"\_ .....Dave.....
   "creationISM" and "evolutionISM"  as two    > >
   tools in the same bag (Whoever or Whatever owns the bag!)!
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