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echo: grand_rounds
to: KURT ULLMAN
from: ROBERT KEITH
date: 1996-06-09 09:45:00
subject: HEALTH INSURANCE

 -=> Quoting Kurt Ullman to Robert Keith <=-
 
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 -=> Quoting Kurt Ullman to Robert Keith <=-
 
 RK>It amazes me to see this kind of posting when millions, even today, hav
 RK>healt care at all. Or don't you care? Wait and see what happens during 
 RK>coming election. The politicos will offer some kind of hybrid health ca
 RK>because they are considering only their own reelection and will be afte
 RK>the votes of the millions who  will be voting that have NO health care
 RK>whatsoever in addition to those that are retired and living on low inco
 RK>I'm for a single payer system and I think that government is the best w
 RK>to achieve that goal; however, if private insurance cna provide the sam
 RK>better care at a lower cost, Good! Let them try.
 KU> `        What has whether or not I care got to do with the historical
 KU> facts of healthcare?  That is the way it was. 
 KU> As for the rest of it...there was demonstrably fewer people without
 KU> access to resources in the old days. 
 KU> Besides you already have a single payer plan in a large segment of
 KU> the population...elderly. Since at least the 80s, MCare has been large
 KU> enough  to pretty much tell the hospitals what they are going to get. 
 KU> Yet the  problems we are getting to with Managed Care we have been
 KU> debating at least  since DRGs in the 80s. We have all covered, but with
 KU> what is generally  thought of as lousy coverage.
 KU> Single payer ain't gonna do it..governments just can't run these
 KU> types of businesses successfully. One method is MSA or other ways to
 KU> get the  patient involved in making decisions instead of saying I"ve
 KU> gotta a twinge  and I'll see a doc cause it is covered.
What is MSA? And just what other ways are there to get the patient
involved? What you say sounds OK, but not being in the health care
business, Ia'm unfamiliar with some of the acronyms. I think that the
patient is involved with his health care provided by Mcare - at least I am.
... "Of course I'm crazy. But that doesn't mean I'm WRONG!"
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