BH> only those who run telegard and have been for some time. I ran both and I 
BH> 'love' both packages. telegard has it's goods and bads and so does renegade
BH> if I didn't spend so much time setting up telegard this last time. i'd be 
BH> running the latest renegade atm. that and I need a net connection so I can 
BH> my damn board up again. argh!!! so frusterating being broke and not being a
BH> to get my board online. heh I was at one point thinking of setting up a dia
BH> board again. and trying to promote that like hell. very doubtful i'll even 
BH> a single user

You got that right. 

... Failure reading left hemisphere bort etry rolic?

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