From: "Rich Gauszka" 

No - my opinion is that our actions should be such that our allies trust us.

no trust - no allies - no diplomacy

Well we do have our brothers in bombing - the Israelis - and they bomb
everyone including us.


"Mark"  wrote in message
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> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
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>> Mark there has to be a modicum of trust for diplomacy to succeed. If no
>> one trusts us because of Bush blunders how can we get anything done in
>> the diplomatic arena?
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> Hmm, your position then is that we should trust those that repeatedly say
> they want us dead and/or want the world to submit to their bastardized
> version of Islam, in the interests of diplomacy?
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> That diplomatic end would mean either our literal death,, or the death of
> our lives as we know them in deference to their dictates -- no thanks.
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>> Oh - Sorry - I forgot - we don't negotiate - we bomb
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> Let's not mince words, they've called the game. It is either bomb or
> submit, isn't it?
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> It doesn't necessarily have to be that way, but that would take dweebs
> like the Swedes to grow a backbone and stand up against them en mass on a
> daily basis to shut down their operations and mock their goal. Instead
> they blame us, as I said, "dweebs," dumb as dirt at that.
 I'll retire before my keyboard gets even looser> 
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