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to: IVY IVERSON
from: RON TAYLOR
date: 1997-12-23 14:00:00
subject: [1/3] Evidence? 2/2

(Continued from previous message)
  >they real or faked?  I have no _concrete_proof_ that these things exist!
If pictures, third party accounts, and speculation were all that
supported these phenomena, then I'd have to doubt them also, but they
are supported by several different authoritative agencies and
organizations who ALL agree that the events really took place.  Who
supports the ET hypothesis?
II>The point I am trying to make here is that sometimes we MUST take things
  >with a grain of faith...
No, there is no mandate to accept anything with any amount of faith
except those things that deal with personal emotions... spiritual
involvement with deities and interpersonal love.  If the ET hypothesis is
true, it is a physical phenomena and does not involve even one tittle of
faith. Do you perceive the ETI as a spiritual involvement?
 >taking into consideration eyewitness reports,
  >comparing the stories of "expert witnesses," such as doctors, law
  >enforcement officers, astronomers and others who are trained to observe
  >and report their observations accurately.
Never have I questioned the validity of those reports.  We agree, at
that place and time, _something_ happened.  They have several (actually
infinite) possible explanations.  The ET conclusion is no more valid
than any other.
  >hovering overhead and it dropped a small piece of "something," which I
  >picked up and later handed to you and said, "This fell from a UFO," would
  >you believe me?  Probably not.
On the contrary... I'd be guilty of reaching a conclusion if I doubted
your veracity without evidence.  If you tell me that what you have came
from some, as yet unidentified craft, I'd take your word until such time
as I had sufficient reason to believe you were lying.
  > You might take it to a lab and have it
  >anyalized, and the anyalisis only says that it contains some of the known
  >90-some elements we know of on Earth.  The non-believer would probably
  >say, "This doesn't have anything 'unknown' in it, therefor it is of
  >earthly origin, case dismissed."
And he would be just as wrong as the true believer who proclaimed, "We
don't know what this is so it MUST be alien".  Speculation is
speculation regardless of the conclusion.
  >They would not consider that any ET's
  >would have the SAME 90-some elements which we have here on this planet.
I'd certainly not be so narrow minded.
  >They may use them in different combinations, but those combinations could
  >just as well be made right here.  So what has been proven?  Nothing!
  >So your "something I can see, touch and feel" still won't convince you!
I'll leave it to the experts.
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