From: Adam Flinton 

Geo. wrote:

> "Phil Payne"  wrote in message
> news:40E84E83.25711081{at}isham-research.com...
>
>
>>Yes.  But I would expect an intelligenace agency that costs $20 billion a
>>year to be able to find at least some of it.
>
>
> How would they do that?
>
>
>>>He doesn't believe a lawyer would do him any good.
>>
>>?  He refused to sign the court papers because his lawyer was not present.
>>Doesn't sound like someone who doesn't want a lawyer.  Now the Iraqis are
>>insisting on him using an Iraqi lawyer and refusing his defence team
>>visas.  Fair trial?
>
>
> Why would Saddam for a moment think he is going to get a fair trial in iraq?
Is
> Iraq a place known for fair trials?
>

Why are the colation there? Is it just to neuter Iraq on behalf of Israel
& US power?


>
>>>What does bother me is the censoring of the pre-trial.
>>
>>_THAT_ bothers you and the other stuff doesn't?  Strange set of values.
>
>
> Yes. Allow me to explain. I have said that no WMD are found by election time
> then I can't vote for Bush. The logic behind that is while I can accept
> mistakes and I can accept that we have to sometimes do things with people who
> aren't exactly nice, what i don't have to accept is an administration that
lies
> to me. You want me to approve going after saddam, no problem, but don't lie
to
> me to manipulate my opinion.
>

Why not? It's the moment which counts & people have short memories
& even those memories can be manipulated.


> I can accept a lot of things that I don't like. But I absolutely cannot
accept
> a secret government, one in which control is not in the hands of the people.

Welcome to Iraq in 2004.

> That's one of the big faults with our leaders, they seem to think we are
sheep
> needing to be led when they should be treating us as owners needing
information
> to make an intelligent decision on how we want our country run.
>

They don't want you to make any decision, they want you to agree with theirs.

> It was the one thing I really liked about Perot, his attitude that the
american
> people were perfectly capable of handling information and making decisions.
>

& how well did he do?

Adam

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