IS> If it was happening from many V.32bis modems
IS> calling Couriers, I guess we'd have heard about it?

PE> This is a classic mistake.  Someone always has to be first.
PE> I was the first to document the Spirit double-send problem,
PE> which happened to be a problem with ALL Spirit modems.

TR> While going through my Spirit archives I discover that (as I thought
TR> I suspected) you did encounter the problem with Rod's Supra modem.
TR> It seems his Supra now has problems with USR V34+ modems. Funny
TR> that. Maybe it's just not a very good implementation of V32bis.

RS> Come on Trev. Yes, it was certainly first carefully documented
RS> with my Supra calling the Spirit, BUT it was THEN extensively
RS> seen with a wide variety of OTHER modems downloading from a Spirit,
RS> even in the US, with Wolfgang faking away on that quite a bit there.

RS> Dave Hatch even saw it between a pair of Spirits, tho certainly not
RS> at the same occurrence frequency seen with other modems from a Spirit.

RS> And now that its clear that its become clear that the mindless
RS> retrain behaviour of the Courier goes away if V32terbo is disabled on
RS> the Courier, and if the Thunder ALSO had to have V32terbo disabled to
RS> ensure reliable incoming V32bis connects from NOT JUST A SUPRA,

TR> Yep, definitely sounds like a poor V32bis implementation on the Supra.

You might care to try to explain why, if the Supra is at fault,
why that problem is never seen when a USR Sportster V34 is called.

And why the problem is also never seen with a
Courier when V32terbo is disabled in the Courier.

RS> this is just the usual attempt to point
RS> the finger and blame it on the other party.

RS> Thats clearly is unsustainable when the double send was
RS> seen between a pair of Spirits by a reliable observer.

TR> There was only ever one unconfirmed sighting.

Crap, it was seen on more than one occasion. Pity its the awkward
evidence that the problem must be in the Spirit coz there aint no
other modem present, handy to try to sweep that under the carpet
as fast as you can and hope no one notices.

You also have just a TINY problem explaining why, when the timing
in the Binkley driving the Spirit is changed just a tiny amount,
that the double sending from the Spirit is gone forever too.

TR> Assuming it could have been confirmed, if you feel you can extrapolate
TR> from a single instance, well, I have this large grey bridge, one owner

Pity it aint anything remotely like a single instance Trev.
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