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to: Adam Flinton
from: Gene McAloon
date: 2004-07-08 22:21:56
subject: Re: I bet they did

From: Gene McAloon 

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:48:34 +0100, Adam Flinton
 wrote:

>Gene McAloon wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:18:17 +0200, Phil Payne

wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Forget Osama bin Laden. He and his little bungling bunch of religious
ideologues
>>>>will accomplish nothing at all. They are a pin-prick on the
world body,
nothing
>>>>more. It has always been so with these
"terrorist" idiots. They  come and
scare
>>>>everybody for awhile, then fade into nothingness. It has never been
otherwise.
>>>
>>>"Terrorists" have in the past been quite - almost universally -
>>>successful.  The USA and Israel come immediately to mind.
>>
>>
>> But you see, they were terrorists only to you Brits. To everyone else they
were
>> freedom fighters and from G. Washington on were seen as such. The mistake
you
>> Brits have always made is branding as terrorists those fighting for freedom
from
>> Brit tyranny. Big mistake, because you then are in the humiliating position
of
>> having to negotiate with those "terrorists" when you
finally decide to that
the
>> cost of keeping them under control is no longer sustainable.
>>
>
>Bit like you with the Arabs then.

What Arabs? The only mess we have got with Arabs are those in Iraq, the
mess Bush created and from which he is desperate to get out of.
>
>
>> I think of Jomo Kenyata, for example. Branded a terrorist by London and the
>> local white louts, he became one of Africa's early heroes and was
universally
>> recognized as such.
>
>As OBL will be in the Arab world.

Preposterous claim. OBL is a religious fanatic who, far from fighting for
anyone's freedom, wants to impose a radical version of  Islam on everyone.
He has some street crediility with the Arab public only becasue among other
things he is anti-American.
>
>> But then so was Washington.
>
>Nah. He was just pissed he couldn't get into the British Army & then
>he'd discovered he was a crap tobacco farmer.
>
>> For that matter, there have been
>> so many as the Empire crumbled. All branded terrorists, all in fact freedom
>> fighters.
>>
>
>Just like OBL.
>
>> But none of that has anything to do with a real terrorist, OBL.
>>
>
>He's no different
>
>Adam

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